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Source: USS Abraham Lincoln On Its Way Home To san Diego; Soon: Testimony To Resume In Tupac Shakur Murder Trial; Woman Charged In Plot To Plant Bomb At NY State Capitol; Duke And Duchess Of Sussex Expected To Return To U.K. In Days; Lindsay Clancy Murder Trial Raises Concerns Over Women's Access To Mental Health Services; Report: Dozens Of Wallets May Have Traded On Military Secrets; Haitian Businesses Struggling Under Fears Of ICE; Finding Common Ground In A Divided World; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher. You are watching the second hour of "One World."
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Donald Trump is threatening further economic pressure on Iran.
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ASHER: Economic pressure mounts as sailors on the USS Abraham Lincoln begin their journey home. The latest on the war with Iran is just ahead.
Plus, terror plot foiled. What we know about the 35-year-old woman accused of working with ISIS.
And later, what happens when you reach across the aisle and listen to someone who completely disagrees with you? Later, this hour will discuss
the power of caring.
All right. As Washington ratchets up economic pressure on Tehran, Iran's president is calling for an end to the conflict.
Masoud Pezeshkian says that the war must end at some point, and it's better to do so when Iran is in a position of strength and dignity.
His call comes as Iran's economy buckles amid the nearly six-month war. A day earlier, U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to ramp up financial
pressure and crack down on countries that continue to do business with Tehran.
The U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent doubled down on that message.
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SCOTT BESSENT, U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY: If you insist on doing business with them, either transferring money, buying their oil, they're doing
seaborne ship transport first, then the U.S. Treasury and the U.S. government, they will put its full might and force towards enforcing
against you.
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ASHER: Meantime, the USS Abraham Lincoln is on its way home. That's according to a source. This after another aircraft carrier, the USS George
Washington arrived in the Middle East.
The troubled Lincoln has been at sea for an extended deployment during the Iran war with reports of low morale and worsening conditions on board.
CNN's Haley Britzky joins us live now from Washington, D.C.
I mean, I'm sure that every sailor aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln would have been relieved to essentially get that message. That -- that their
time, at least for now, is over at sea. And they are going to be going home and be reunited, hopefully, with their loved ones.
HALEY BRITZKY, CNN SENIOR U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER: Yes, Zain. I'm sure the sailors of Abraham Lincoln are counting down the days to get to
their home court in San Diego and see their families, certainly their families are counting down the days.
There still is a little bit of time before they get back there, but obviously take some time to get from the Middle East back to San Diego.
It'll be roughly two weeks or so before they arrive in homeport.
But as you mentioned, I mean this carrier has been through a lot out there. It's -- it has set record deployment for so many days away from port.
Obviously, port calls are important, not only for morale to give sailors a chance to get off the ship, but also to bring on supplies and -- and sort
of bring on what is needed for those sailors who are living on that ship.
Deployments, Zain, obviously, are never easy. These sailors are not promised a cakewalk, certainly living on these ships for as long as they
do. But the -- the length of time that they have been on this deployment has raised a lot of concerns, brought a lot of strain, as my colleagues
have reported, significant mental health concerns for these sailors, at least two sailors in the strike group as a whole who have reportedly jumped
overboard.
And I want to clarify that, you know, man overboard incidents are not unheard of. It's not unheard of to have mental health concerns on some of
these deployments, but certainly there has seemed to be a higher rate of them on this Lincoln deployment.
So, those sailors, I'm sure, are very ready to be getting home. As you mentioned, the USS George Washington is now officially in the Middle East
taking over the watch there, which does, you know, kind of indicate there's not an immediate chance of these sailors all returning home as these
conversations about the war with Iran are still continuing in the White House and elsewhere, Zain.
ASHER: All right. Haley Britzky, live for us. Thank you for that.
All right. The first week of Tupac Shakur's murder trial will wrap up today. This after jurors heard explosive testimony on Thursday from Duane
"Keffe D" Davis, the man accused used of orchestrating the killing of the rapper happening soon in a Las Vegas courtroom.
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Prosecutors are expected to continue playing recorded police interviews featuring Davis detailing the events surrounding the 1996 drive-by
shooting.
Yesterday, jurors heard police interview with Davis where he seemingly admitted to having a role in the shooting of Tupac Shakur. The interview
was part of a plea agreement related to drugs charges from 2008.
Jurors also heard explosive allegations from an FBI interview in 2008 as well where Davis accuses hip-hop star, Sean "Diddy" Combs of offering him
$1 million to kill Tupac and Death Row Records CEO Suge Knight. Take a listen.
All right. Let's bring in -- we don't have that audio, but let's bring in attorney and legal affairs commentator, Areva Martin. Areva, always good to
see you.
I'm not entirely sure if you're like me, but I have had somewhat of an unhealthy obsession with this case ever since it began.
Partly because yes, of course, I mean, Tupac Shakur was, of course, an icon, but also the circumstances surrounding his death. You think about the
fact that there's only been this one individual who's been charged in the past 30 years. And partly because there was such a code of silence back
then even by Tupac himself who rode in the ambulance and refused to say the name of the person who may have shot him essentially saying to police at
the time, no, no, we'll take care of it. Even as he was dying.
So many sort of fascinating details. I do want to start with this individual Keffe D. Because essentially what the defense is resting on here
is they're basically saying that even though my client admitted to killing Tupac Shakur, do not believe anything he says.
My client cannot be trusted, which is a very difficult legal defense, because if we can't believe him back then, why should we believe him now
when he says that he didn't do it?
AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY AND LEGAL AFFAIRS COMMENTATOR: Well, you're right, Zain, it is a difficult and unusual, I should say, theory for prosecution
to put on a case and try to use the very words of the defendant as their star evidence.
In this case, we don't have the vehicle involved, this white Cadillac. We don't have the gun that allegedly was used to shoot Tupac Shakur. And we
don't have traditional eyewitnesses. We have Davis, this memoir that he wrote where he tells this story of being involved. And we have this audio,
which is the proper of 2008.
There are a lot of issues though with this because what is said in that proper as well, on that audio, is that this is a confidential conversation
between Davis and these police officers. And they tell him very explicitly that what you say today, what you say during this interview will not be
used against you.
So, jurors are going to have to grapple with the fact that the prosecution is trying to use this proper as an admission, as evidence that Davis
committed this crime or -- or orchestrated, I should say this crime, while at the same time, you can hear officers telling him that this information
that he's providing will not be used against him. I think that's a tall order for the prosecution.
ASHER: Yes. So, will that affect the juror's calculation? I mean, you know, the instruction for any juror is, of course, beyond a reasonable doubt.
Will they take into consideration the fact that when Keffe D admitted to having a role in Tupac's death by essentially handing the person, his
nephew, the weapon, that he was told, listen, none of this is going to be used against you. Don't worry, you can admit to it. We will not use this
against you. Anything you say, Mr. Davis, is going to stay in this room.
Like, how do jurors sort of navigate that?
MARTIN: I think it's going to raise serious issues about trust. And in addition to them telling him the information won't be used against him,
they're also going to learn that he was being potentially charged with a serious narcotics charge selling or distributing a large amount of PCP from
his home, and that he and family members who live in that home were facing potential criminal prosecution that could result in very serious jail time.
So, I think we're going to also hear the defense say, look, this man was under pressure to tell these law enforcement agents anything they wanted to
hear, because if he did, he could avoid this criminal prosecution that would impact not just him, but his entire family.
And he was told that whatever he said would not be used against him. So, jurors are going to have to determine, is this credible what he said? Is
this a man that went into this room and just lied to avoid criminal prosecution? Is he lying because he didn't believe any of this was used
against him?
And that's what his defense lawyer has argued from the beginning. He put up in the opening statement a big sign that said, fact over fiction, and put
up a sign that said, yes, Zain, that this is a guy that embellished that told this fictionalized story to basically make money to cash in on Tupac
Shakur's murder, and that you should not believe anything he said. So, it's an unusual statement for defense to tell jurors, don't believe my client,
but that is exactly the crux of the argument being made by this defense lawyer.
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But the other thing is, I mean, you mentioned that there's no car, there's no weapon, you know, there's no eyewitness. We know that everybody who was
in the car that night is no longer alive, apart from Keffe D, obviously.
But the one thing that is working against him here is the fact that he would have a motive, right? Everybody who has paid attention to this case
has seen that infamous video of the night that Tupac Shakur was killed when he was at the MGM Grand Las Vegas, at that Mike Tyson fight where he got
into a fight with a man named Orlando Anderson that happens to be Keffe D's nephew.
And so this idea that perhaps, you know, in retaliation, perhaps in retaliation for Tupac Shakur being involved in that brawl that Davis would
have wanted to retaliate, that is a believable motive as well.
MARTIN: Well, it is believable that during this era that the Crips and Bloods were often fighting each other. There were often these revenge
murders, these revenge drive-by shootings that took place.
But once you buy into this theory that this was some kind of gang retaliation, you have to think about, there were more people in this game
than Orlando Anderson and Keffe D Davis. These were large L.A. street gangs, all of whom or many of whom were in Las Vegas during this fight.
So, yes, you could argue that this alleged fight, or I guess it is alleged, because we've seen the video with this fight that took place at the MGM
after Mike Tyson's fight, gave Davis and his nephew and others in that car, a motive. But you also, can also make the argument that the defense, I'm
sure, will make that there were others members of this gang that were in Las Vegas during this time and they may have also had a motive, a reason to
strike back at Tupac Shakur.
And again, the defense doesn't have to prove a case. All the defense has to prove is that there isn't evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. And if one
juror doubts the case that's being put on by the prosecution, that could be problematic for the prosecution of this case.
ASHER: You know, the only other person who I would imagine would know for sure what happened, depending -- I mean, obviously, shooting happens very,
very quickly. You're talking about seconds, right?
The only other person that is alive that would know is, of course, Suge Knight. He was in that car. He was driving. He was shot as well. Obviously,
he lived. He is serving a very, very long prison sentence for something completely unrelated.
Given that he has knowledge, and I know that, you know, because of the sort of code among not just those in gangs, but those who lived their lives
gang, adjacently, you know, there was this code of silence, like you don't speak to the cops, you don't throw anyone under the bus, you know, you
handle it yourself.
But could Suge Knight be called in this? What are the chances of that?
MARTIN: Well, he definitely has already appeared on the witness list for the prosecution. But he's also made some pretty public statements that he
is not going to testify, that he wants nothing to do with this trial.
The -- the way that you would typically get a witness like that to testify is by holding over their head, contempt charges, by threatening them with,
if you don't come into this courtroom, and, you know, tell the truth and give testimony based on the subpoena that will be issued to him, that you
could be held in contempt.
And when you're held in contempt, you can be placed to jail. As you've already stated, he's already serving a very lengthy prison sentence. So,
the threat of further jail time, I'm sure doesn't mean very much to him.
So, it remains to be seen if Suge Knight is going to testify. I'd be very, very shocked and surprised if he did testify, particularly if he pointed
the finger at Duane Davis or anyone else that allegedly had anything to do with this murder.
We already saw a former gang member testified earlier in the week. And he was admonishing Davis' lawyer saying, look, why are you asking me these
questions? Basically, you know that we don't "snitch" on each other.
So, I can't imagine Suge Knight breaking with that code of silence and coming into this courtroom pointing the finger at Davis or stating
affirmatively any information that would be helpful to the prosecution.
ASHER: Yes. We're actually looking at live pictures of this courtroom in Las Vegas, Nevada. There is Keffe Davis, who's just whispering to his
lawyer there. He's just sitting down.
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Yes. And -- and what's interesting, you know, I think you're right, Areva, because Suge Knight did actually call into TMZ this week. And you're
exactly right, he didn't really give much information. All he said was that there were a lot of people, according to him, who were involved in the
murder of Tupac Shakur. It wasn't just one person.
He described it as an assassination with many, many people involved. And that is all that he would say.
All right. Areva Martin, live for us there. Thank you so much.
All right. A woman --
MARTIN: Thanks, Zain.
ASHER: Of course.
A woman who swore allegiance to ISIS is now in jail for allegedly plotting to blow up the New York State Capitol. FBI agents arrested Jessica Bowie
Wednesday after she thought she was buying an explosive device from an ISIS contact.
For weeks, she messaged what she thought was her contact, discussing plans to blow up the capitol and pledging allegiance to ISIS.
After one meeting, the undercover agent brought her to Home Depot, told her what to buy for the bomb, and even lent her $200 to buy the items.
When she came for a follow-up meeting on Wednesday, agents moved in.
Whitney Wild joins us live now from Chicago with details. I mean, also, you know, her social media posts were used against her as well. What more do we
know, Whitney?
WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well, these social media posts were quite concerning. I mean, she was spreading these anti-American
messages of hate. She was very clearly radicalized online, according to the FBI.
And here is what they said she had planned. They said, as you point out, there's those photos of her buying materials. She wanted to create a bomb
that she would put in a food delivery bag and she'd place at the New York State Capitol building.
The plan was to take down as much of the building as possible, kill senators inside. And her hope was that she'd be able to kill half of the
people who were inside that building.
Again, she was radicalized online. The FBI has made clear that they believe she took over acts to carry out this attack, which includes buying the
materials, laying out her plans to an FBI informant.
In mid-July, that is when she began communicating directly with this FBI informant. It took a few more weeks for this case to finally come together.
And then when it did, the FBI moved in swiftly.
Here's how they actually initiated that takedown. She was in a vehicle with the FBI informants. They provided her a firearm. It was inert. It was not
clear that she knew that, but the assumption is she did not know that, as well as ammunition and a magazine in exchange for $150.
In addition, they showed her an inert explosive. When everybody exited the vehicle, that's when the FBI moved in and arrested her. She is now facing
up to 20 years in prison. She's facing a $250,000 fine. She also faces the potential of having supervised release forever for her lifetime.
The plan did not stop at the New York State Capitol either. Her sort of master plan here was to flee the country. Then she had hoped to come back
to the U.S. and actually initiate an even bigger plot that would attack the New York Times -- New York Times Square New Year's Eve celebration. That's
that big ball drop. Tens of thousands of people attend every year. She wanted to attack that event.
She also wanted to attack the White House and kill the president. So, she laid out in pretty clear detail her hopes and dreams and her, you know,
concrete plans to begin attacks at the New York State Capitol.
They were foiled. The FBI saying this is an extremely disturbing case. It was -- it was the real deal. I mean, they are very confident that she had
the means and had taken these actions to actually commit this crime. Back to you.
ASHER: All right. Whitney Wild there. Thank you for that.
All right. Still to come here on "One World," setting the stage for a world return. What we know about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's plans to move
back to the United Kingdom.
And are military secrets being turned into gambling profits? We'll look at the online prediction markets where some very well-informed people have
made a profit.
Plus.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe that women deserve support. And Lindsay didn't perceive the support that she deserved.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm here supporting Lindsay because I've been through what Lindsay's going through.
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ASHER: We'll have the latest on the Lindsay Clancy murder trial and hear why this case is raising concerns about the state of America's mental
health system.
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ASHER: All right. Britain's Prince Harry and other high-profile figures, including Sir Elton John, have been ordered to pay an initial $13 million
in legal fees after their failed case against the publisher of the "Daily Mail."
The group alleged that Associated Newspapers Limited gathered information unlawfully. A judge dismissed the cases last month.
Media reports are suggesting Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, may have lined up an acting job in the U.K. However, the reports have not been confirmed.
London's Madame Tussauds is already anticipating the royal couples' arrival. Statues of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been moved to the
museum's British zone. It will also support suitcases by their feet and announce to the couple's journey back to the U.K. after more than six years
in the U.S.
It has certainly been an eventful six years for the royal couple, to say the least, from a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey to Meghan's
lifestyle brand, As Ever. Randi Kaye looks back at their time in the U.S.
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PRINCE HARRY, DUKE OF SUSSEX: This all started with them briefing daily against my wife with lies to the point of where my wife and I had to run
away from our -- from my country.
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince Harry explaining to Anderson Cooper on "60 Minutes" why he and his wife, Meghan Markle, the
Duchess of Sussex, left the United Kingdom and moved to the United States six years ago.
In a bombshell interview with Oprah in 2021, the couple claimed Meghan was the target of racism. She told Oprah, at least one member of the Royal
family expressed concern about how dark skinned their baby might be.
MEGHAN MARKLE, DUCHESS OF SUSSEX: There are several conversations.
OPRAH WINFREY, MEDIA PERSONALITY: There's a conversation with you --
MARKLE: With Harry.
WINFREY: About how dark your baby is going to be?
MARKLE: Potentially, and what that would mean or look like.
KAYE (voice-over): After the interview, Buckingham Palace issued a statement on behalf of the Queen. It said that "Issues raised, particularly
that of race, were concerning. And that some recollections may vary."
KAYE: Across the Atlantic, from London to California, where the Sussexes settled, the royal rift continued.
In his bestselling memoir, "Spare" released in 2023, Harry wrote about an alleged physical altercation with his brother, Prince William, the heir to
the throne, and opened up about his strained relationship with his father, King Charles.
PRINCE HARRY: I love my father. I love my brother, I love my family. I always do. Nothing of what I've done in this book or otherwise, has ever
been any intention to harm them or hurt them.
KAYE (voice-over): The Sussexes launched a post-Royal enterprise under the name Sussex Royal, until the Queen said they could no longer use the word
Royal. They rebranded to Archewell in 2020, which included both the Archewell Foundation for charity work and Archewell Productions, through
which they inked deals with Netflix and Spotify.
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PRINCE HARRY: I didn't want history to repeat itself.
KAYE (voice-over): In 2022, the reality series "Harry and Meghan" debuted on Netflix. And just last year, Meghan premiered her own Netflix series.
MARKLE: Let's go.
KAYE (voice-over): "With Love, Meghan."
MARKLE: I've always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it. Surprising people with moments that let them know I was really thinking
of them.
KAYE (voice-over): Meghan's 2022 podcast Archetypes was canceled after one season despite its A-list guests.
Harry co-created a docuseries with Oprah for Apple T.V. that explored mental health around the world.
PRINCE HARRY: To make that decision to receive help is not a sign of weakness. More than ever, it is a sign of strength.
KAYE (voice-over): For her part, Meghan continues to promote her lifestyle brand "As Ever." On its Instagram page, As Ever notes, it all "began with
fruit from Meghan's garden simmered into preserves in her home kitchen."
Here she is on Instagram, showing off her favorite ice cream sundae.
Despite the slick marketing, the reviews are mixed. On Trustpilot, a consumer business review website, one happy customer wrote "Opening the box
felt like Christmas." While others were more harsh. "Meghan's efforts to enter the market as a retail lifestyle brand are grim at best." And
"Overpriced products of very low quality with absent customer service. Don't waste your money."
Randi Kaye, CNN, Palm Beach County, Florida.
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ASHER: All right. Welcome back to "One World," live from New York. I'm Zain Asher.
All right. I want to turn now to a murder trial out of Massachusetts, which is nearing its end. The defense has just rested and Lindsay Clancy did not
take this down to testify.
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She's already admitted to killing her three children in January 2023. Her then-husband was on an errand when it happened. Now, she faces up to life
in prison if convicted of first-degree murder.
Clancy's attorney argues she was driven by postpartum psychosis and extreme mental illness. They're urging jurors to reject prosecutor's claims that
she intentionally murdered the children.
The jury for the Lindsay Clancy trial is back in the courtroom today hearing a rebuttal from the prosecution. And jurors heard from just one
defense witness on Thursday, one week after the 2023 killings. A hospital chaplain says that she met with Clancy who told her, quote, I am so glad my
children are safe.
Clancy's mental health has been examined by a forensic psychologist, Dr. Paul Zeizel, testified in 2023. She was experiencing postpartum psychosis.
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DR. PAUL ZEIZEL, FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: My opinion is that she did have indeed a mental disease or a defect. That's a legal construct, not a DSM-5
one, but she had bipolar disorder with postpartum psychosis.
In addition, she was unable to conform her behaviors to the rule of law. And she had no appreciation for the wrongfulness of her act.
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ASHER: Outside the courtroom, Clancy's story has raised concerns about how America's mental health system treats women.
Journalist Aaron Parseghian explains.
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AARON PARSEGHIAN, WBZ-TV REPORTER (voice-over): A sea of pink outside the Plymouth courthouse, supporters of Lindsay Clancy coming from near and far
for day 17 of testimony in her triple murder trial.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We all relate in one way or another. And that is definitely attracting each of us here to support her.
PARSEGHIAN (voice-over): Some even waiting to greet defense attorney Kevin Reddington, who tells us Lindsay was moved by the site.
KEVIN REDDINGTON, ATTORNEY: I mean, she's still very, you know, very sad and very attentive. She's very buoyed. It's the only thing I can think of
by all the support. I really appreciate it.
PARSEGHIAN (voice-over): For the scene outside, it was a rather quick day in court for jurors.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lindsay talks frequently about her children. She loves them deeply. She carries immense grief.
PARSEGHIAN (voice-over): Chaplain Sheila Cavanaugh, the lone defense witness to take the stand Thursday recalled what Lindsay told her from her
hospital bed just days after she strangled her three children and attempted to take her own life.
CAVANAUGH: She said to me as I held her hand to comfort her, I am so glad my children are safe. I replied theologically to Lindsay and I said,
Lindsay, your children are safe. They're safe in heaven with God.
PARSEGHIAN (voice-over): Cavanaugh telling the jury, Clancy also told her about the voice in her head the night of the killings. Testimony the
defense is using to bolster their argument, she was overmedicated and experiencing postpartum psychosis.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You wrote very detailed notes that are contained in the Brigham and Women's Hospital records.
PARSEGHIAN (voice-over): But in cross-examination, prosecutors aiming to prove the killings were premeditated questioned why the reported voices
never appear in any of Cavanaugh's reports.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You've got all these details about her feelings and her thoughts and -- and what she's doing, but nothing about the voices that
you spoke of so many times, correct?
CAVANAUGH: Correct.
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ASHER: All right. Let's take a look and see how the markets are faring. Green across the board. The Dow is up by three quarters of a percent.
NASDAQ and the S&P 500 are both up by half of one percent. This is your business breakout.
U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance says the economic pressure is America's most effective tool against Iran. He also notes that it's a, quote, delicate
dance. During a radio interview Thursday, Vance acknowledged rising oil and fuel prices, but also touted the Trump administration's ability to get
ships through the Strait of Hormuz.
And Samsung Electronics is planning to return nearly $80 billion to shareholders this year. That would be more than five times Samsung's
previous record for shareholder returns set back in 2020. The company is facing pressure to pay out some of its record profits as the A.I. boom
drives demand for chips.
A teen girl has dropped her lawsuit accusing Meta, Google and Snapchat of fueling her social media addiction, depression and self-harm. The company
say she dropped her claims without any payment. Her case was among a handful that could have helped shape thousands of similar suits against the
social media giants.
More than 150 wallets on the online trading platform, Polymarket, may have traded on U.S. military secrets. That's according to research from the
Anti-Corruption Data Collective. That report is raising concerns that trading markets could be broadcasting signals foreign adversaries could
exploit.
CNN's Marshall Cohen is across the latest on this from Washington. Marshall, thank you so much for being with us.
Researchers were essentially saying that the win rate among these 150 accounts were essentially so high that they believed that they were
essentially being done by insiders.
MARSHALL COHEN, CNN SENIOR REPORTER: Yes. And that was one of the potential telltale signs, one of a few. But, Zain, it seems like this insider trading
stuff just keeps coming up.
So, here's the context, war markets. We're talking about war markets after all. They are illegal in the U.S. So, all of the trades you mentioned
occurred on Polymarket's international site. That site runs on blockchain, which means all the trades are actually public and trackable, even though
it doesn't tell us who is doing the trading, the data is still valuable.
And the folks at the nonpartisan Anti-Corruption Data Collective did a deep dive. Here's what they found. More than 150 accounts, like you said,
showing signs of potential insider trading on war markets, including markets about Iran. They said many of those accounts placed huge longshot
bets and had that stunning 97 percent win rate. And altogether, they profited more than $8 million.
Now, to be clear, Polymarket is not accused of any wrongdoing here. I spoke with a senior Polymarket official about these findings. They said they had
already referred dozens of those accounts to the Justice Department and that criminal investigations are underway. CNN has reached out to the DOJ
for comment on that.
Now, Zain, Polymarket says it's investing heavily on internal surveillance to prevent insider trading just like this. The company's founder and CEO,
Shayne Coplan, brought that up yesterday at an event here in Washington, D.C. with the federal regulators. Take a listen to what he said.
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SHAYNE COPLAN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, POLYMARKET: We have someone here right now who is ex-FBI, who works full-time at Polymarket, has built
custom proprietary surveillance software on-chain. I know this is live stream, so people are going to be upset to hear that.
But, you know, we -- we talked with our partners, Palantir, Chainalysis, and they're like, damn, you guys have this in-house? This -- this is
serious. You know, and we're -- we're grateful to have that. And we can continue to invest more in it.
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COHEN: So, Zain, at the big picture here, situations like these are exactly why so many policymakers here in the U.S. are alarmed about prediction
markets. Forty-four state attorney general, 44 of the 50 states, are pushing hard for more regulation.
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There's also an increasing number of Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Congress who want to rein in this booming industry.
Zain?
ASHER: All right. Marshall Cohen, live for us. Thank you so much.
All right. After ending temporary protected status for thousands of Haitian refugees in the U.S., the Trump administration has sent its first
deportation flight to Haiti. Fears of being caught by ICE attacking many at home affecting local Haitian businesses who depend on their community to
get by.
CNN's Priscilla Alvarez reports.
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MICHELLE CHARLES, OWNER, GLORY CARIBBEAN EXPRESS: Nothing. Nobody come over. Nobody buys anything.
PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Business for Michelle, a U.S. citizen who emigrated from Haiti has plummeted. Her customers,
primarily Haitians, have gone into hiding over fear of ICE, leaving her store, which was bustling only a few weeks ago, largely dormant.
CHARLES: My freezer are empty right now. I try to cut down. I shot two freezer down because --
ALVAREZ: When did you make this decision?
CHARLES: Last week.
ALVAREZ: Freezers for right now.
CHARLES: You just have to do what you have to do.
ALVAREZ (voice-over): In Salisbury, Maryland, around 10 percent of the population is Haitian. Now, they're the target of ICE operations.
CHARLES: We used to be, you know, together everywhere. Now, like they took my brother. You can't be like in the group three, four people. You feel
like you're going to get arrested.
ALVAREZ (voice-over): The tipping point happened in late July when the Supreme Court effectively allowed the Trump administration to end temporary
protected status for Haitians. A day later, Michelle's brother, who previously had TPS, was detained by ICE.
CHARLES: Well, here's my brother.
ALVAREZ: Oh.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maurice (INAUDIBLE) is calling you from Wayne Correctional Center.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello?
CHARLES: Hey, Mr. Mo (ph).
ALVAREZ: Has anybody spoken with you in the facility?
ALVAREZ (voice-over): Maurice told us that he was asked to sign papers with the promise of money if he were to leave the U.S. Maurice, who had
previously applied for a green card, was arrested by ICE at this garage, where he worked about five minutes down the road from Michelle's store.
CHARLES: That's basically where they took him.
ALVAREZ (voice-over): What was that moment like for you getting that phone call?
CHARLES: Devastating, because he's been here for more than 20 years, and then something happened like that. And he hasn't prepared for it. It's
happening suddenly. Everything changed.
ALVAREZ (voice-over): The economy here depends in large part on Haitians. They work at the nearby poultry plants, among other industries.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I like the goat meat.
ALVAREZ: Oh, really?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
ALVAREZ: All right. I'm going to give it a shot.
ALVAREZ (voice-over): Restaurants, once frequented by Haitians, are examples of a community paralyzed.
ALVAREZ: So, how have you experienced that switch just turning off?
DR. MARIE D. BERNARDETTE FOUCHE, FOUNDER & EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SAFE HARBOR CIRCLES: I cannot find words. It's -- it's like a nightmare. I have two
men, actually, who reach out, asking me if I would be willing to sign the standby guardianship for their kids.
ALVAREZ: Have you gone to homes where children didn't --
FOUCHE: Yes.
ALVAREZ: -- their parents didn't make it back?
FOUCHE: Yes. We had to visit them. We have to -- to step in.
ALVAREZ: How old were they?
FOUCHE: We are talking about a four years old that was taken. We are talking about another girl. She just turned three. That was taken.
NATALIE SAINT-PHARD, DIRECTOR OF OUTREACH, SAFE HARBOR CIRCLES: It's a ripple effect, when you decimate one group or you disrupt one group,
everything that that group touches also gets affected.
ALVAREZ (voice-over): That's true for Michelle. Her business and her brother's future are now uncertain.
ALVAREZ: So, how are you thinking about tomorrow and the next day and the next day in this moment?
FOUCHE: We don't know what tomorrow will be. Tomorrow, we just put the faith on God.
ALVAREZ: The Trump administration says that temporary protected status is just that, temporary. The Department of Homeland Security told CNN that
Maurice had been the target of an enforcement operation after illegally entering the United States on three separate occasions. They went on to say
that he does not have lawful status to stay in the country, and that, quote, "he will remain in ICE custody pending removal."
Now, DHS says that people can self-deport, but Haitians, particularly those who have been here for decades and legally living and working in the U.S.,
say that they have nowhere to go back to, given that their country is still grappling with unrest.
Back to you.
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ASHER: All right. Here in the U.S., the Florida primaries this week offered a snapshot of a deeply divided political landscape, not just between
Democrats and Republicans, but within the parties themselves, and whichever candidates emerge from these battles will face the challenge of uniting
voters who may be far apart, ideologically, but this division extends well beyond politics.
Whether we are talking about the war in Iran, climate change or immigration, we live in a world where people often have very, very strongly
held views.
So, what happens when we reach across the proverbial aisle and engage with people who see the world very differently? Can that division, can that
divide actually end up becoming a force for good?
Time now for The Exchange and our Time Out. Our next guest has written extensively about creating stronger connections. And this is obviously a
very timely topic in a divided world.
Dr. Tony Nader is the author of "The Power of Caring: Who Cares, Why It Matters, and How Conscious Caring Creates a Fulfilling and Connected Life."
Dr. Tony Nader joins us live now from Paris. Dr. Nader, thank you so much.
A friend of mine actually handed me your book, and I was so moved by it that I really wanted to get you on the program. Because this is a topic
that is so dear to my heart. We are, as I mentioned, living in a very, very divided world right now.
And I just wonder whether or not, just speaking of sort of -- of the political divisions here in the United States, is our political
polarization making us less capable of empathy? Or is the lack of empathy fueling much more political polarization? What are your thoughts?
DR. TONY NADER, AUTHOR, "THE POWER OF CARING": Well, thank you for having me. First, it's important to realize that we are affected by what we put
our attention on, whether we feel it consciously or not.
There is a part of our nervous system that does not really distinguish between what happens to us and what happens to someone or we maybe watch
suffering.
So, when we take in tragedy on the news, wherever, our bodies register, you know, cortisol or rises, sleep suffers, mood dips, whether we admit it or
not. This is empathy, and it is wired in all of us. It is what a healthy human being naturally does when they encounter another human being.
So, empathy and care must be managed wisely to avoid, on the one hand, overwhelm, and on the other hand, to avoid becoming isolated and
disconnected.
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An important note here, and that is the absence of care itself doesn't protect us. It can even slowly cause us the capacity to feel connected to
our own lives.
ASHER: It's so interesting what you're saying, because on the one hand, you know, what you're talking about is the fact that we are all wired to care.
And when we see suffering, you know, on the news, we feel it deeply.
However, sometimes the news of suffering can come so thick and fast that I think sometimes we disengage to protect ourselves.
So, for example, over the past two weeks on this show alone, I have covered an earthquake in Colombia, you know, and Ebola crisis in the Democratic
Republic of Congo. We're -- we're talking about the wars in Iran, Ukraine. Just a few moments ago, we talked about a murder trial happening in Las
Vegas.
You know, when we sort of see human suffering in different parts of the world and it doesn't necessarily affect us, it doesn't affect us
personally, you know, most people who are watching this show, when they see suffering in -- in places like Gaza or Southern Lebanon, it might not
affect us personally.
But how do we ensure that it doesn't diminish our capacity to care?
NADER: What's important is it is not by trying to feel everything. That will over -- overwhelm really any human nervous system.
Care consciously by knowing what is mine to do and what is not mine to do. Shrink the field. And there is a difference here between caring and
carrying. So, shrink the field back to what a human being can actually hold the person in front of us. The one email we can answer well, the neighbor
we can check on.
Real care is small, specific, and consistent. And it requires that we ourselves are rested and settled because a depleted person cannot care well
for anyone.
So, take care of your own nervous system first. And on that solid ground, we can allow our care to gradually embrace.
See, human beings evolved to care in a -- in a tribe, in a group, in a small group, 30, 40, 50 people. Now, we are, as you mentioned, asked to,
you know, carry the pain of eight billion people besides wars and disasters and, you know, historical wrongs. This -- the system cannot -- cannot
uphold, cannot do it, gets over burned, it shuts down.
ASHER: It gets overwhelmed. And what I find interesting is that in my job, though, whenever I have covered a crisis, and, you know, we could be
talking about, I just mentioned the earthquake in Colombia, for example, or for example wildfires on the West Coast right now in the United States.
Oftentimes in a crisis, you will see the most unimaginable, unbelievable acts of compassion. And what sometimes tends to happen is that we can live
next door to somebody and not say a word to them, you know, effectively, ignore them, you know, people will -- I mean, I live in New York. People
will enter the same elevator as their neighbors and just look down at their phones, not even look at each other.
But when there is a crisis, when there is a natural disaster, when there is a flood, you know, people really go out of their way to show extreme
compassion. But why should it take a crisis for us as humans to realize how dependent we are on one another?
NADER: You know, we're wired to care and we're wired to care and there's all circumstances. And when we are exposed with danger as an individual or
somebody else's is exposed to big dangers, then we feel that the self, our own self is in danger.
So, we are really ultimately deeply, deeply connected. Our human species evolved to take care of each other. That's how we were able to meet, you
know, much stronger species on an individual level.
But as a group, we have evolved to have those feelings. So, whenever there is a sense of some kind of extreme situation, our inner sense of protection
is -- is alive and threatened and it leads us to a response which is very much biological. And at the same time, beyond biology, a very human
connection that is awakened within us.
ASHER: Yes. And whenever I cover natural disaster, I am so moved by how loving people are. Even when, you know, their own livelihood is threatened,
they always sort of -- it seems to be more common than not that people really do try to reach out to their neighbors.
You know, I am a mother of two young boys. And, you know, one of my -- you know, one of my sort of -- one thing I'm very passionate about is really
raising my sons to become decent men, you know, decent men. And I think about it all the time.
And, you know, by that, I -- I don't just mean, you know, men who are sort of super disciplined and hardworking and successful. I mean, obviously, you
know, that's -- that's somewhat important, but really men who are kind, compassionate, empathetic and caring.
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A lot of parents who are watching this feel the same and think about the same thing. How do you start when your kids are young to raise them to have
compassion in a world that is so divided?
NADER: The most important thing is to get them settled within themselves. This is a very kind of apparently contradictory statement, because when you
want to care about the others, you want to be altruistic.
But if you strengthen within them, their inner being, the nature of life is to connect. So, this inner wiring, this inner state, connectedness and
caring comes from within.
And we have to teach them the difference between what I call caring and caring. Caring is a verb. You know, compassion is a feeling and some
seeing, you know, and particularly empathy is a reaction of the nervous system. We have mirror neurons, we react to that. So, when we are settled
and feeling secure within us, this comes naturally.
However, if we carry the feelings of other, the burdens of other, we get overburned. So, we -- caring wisely is an action. You do something but you
don't have to carry on yourself the pain and the suffering and start suffering yourself.
ASHER: All right. Doctor --
NADER: So, that differentiation is very important.
ASHER: Doctor, I'm actually out of time, but I could honestly talk to you about this all day.
Dr. Tony Nader, thank you so much for being with us on the show.
And that does it for "One World." I'm Zain Asher. "Amanpour" is up next.
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