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Canadian Government Reacts to Trump's Sweeping Tariffs; Canada to Introduce $7.5B Support Package for Businesses; U.S. Secret Service Aware of Iran State Media Video Appearing to Threaten the Life of Barron Trump; Supreme Court Hands Trump Win Over Mail-In Ballots for Now; OpenAI Launches ChatGPT for Teens; France, Saudi Arabia to Build $7 Billion Theme Park. Aired 11a-12p ET
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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Live from Atlanta, I'm Lynda Kinkade. Zain is off today. This is "One World". In just a few moments, we'll hear
from Canadian cabinet members about how they'll respond to Donald Trump imposing tariffs on about 20 billion dollars' worth of Canadian goods.
The tariffs cover a wide range of goods, from alcohol to paper products, cosmetics, and electronics. Canada's Prime Minister promises to match the
American tariffs dollar for dollar. This is a live look you're looking at right now from Ottawa, where the ministers of finance, industry, and jobs
are speaking and taking questions from reporters.
They'll also visit a local business to show how they plan to protect Canadian firms and their employees. For a closer look at the tariffs and
the potential fallout from a trade war, I want to welcome Anna Stewart, who's also keeping a close eye on that press conference. Anna, good to have
you with us. So, Canada has promised to match the U.S. rate on tariffs, product for product. What are you expecting to hear from this press
conference?
ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. So, Prime Minister Mark Carney has already made very clear that this would be a dollar-for-dollar response,
and this is in response to the latest salvo from the U.S. which was on $20 billion worth of tariffs, a 50 percent tariff. So, we're expecting that
dollar-for-dollar amount.
I believe the press conference has now got going. And what we expect to see here is, let me just get you some details here because it's just coming
fresh off the press. Canada will be implementing tariffs starting September 8th. It won't be as blunt as the 50 percent tariff that we had from the
U.S. It'll be a 15, 25, and 50 percent tariff on again around 20 billion dollars' worth of goods.
This, I believe, is one of the ministers who'll be getting into more of the detail on that. We're expecting to see a tariff on steel and aluminum
increase from 25 percent to 50 percent. We are expecting a tariff from Canada on all sorts of products, including dairy, fish, other key areas.
There's some irony here, of course, because President Trump has long railed about the cost of Canadian tariffs on dairy. We expect a lot more, and of
course, a support package for Canadian workers and businesses as well, in terms of how they can weather what is the beginning, perhaps, of a trade
war?
KINKADE: Yeah, certainly sounds like the trade war is escalating. Anna Stewart, we're going to come back to you shortly. I want to get some more
perspective on this dispute and welcome our CNN Global Economic Analyst, Rana Foroohar. She's also the Global Business Columnist at "The Financial
Times". Great to see you, Rana.
RANA FOROOHAR, CNN GLOBAL ECONOMIC ANALYST: Great to see you.
KINKADE: So, you've said a trade war between the U.S. and its second largest trading partner, Canada, is a mistake. Just explain why.
FOROOHAR: Well, you know the U.S. is fighting and really has been since the beginning of Trump too on all sides. You know you saw this president come
in immediately slap tariffs on adversaries and allies alike, and it's just not an effective strategy because it essentially turns, you know, friends
into foes at a time when America really needs all the friends it can get.
Canada has important exports for the U.S. I would say lumber and energy are amongst the two most important exports into the U.S. That affects housing
prices very strongly. Housing prices are really out of control in a lot of parts of America, and you know that's a political issue for the president.
So, there's an affordability crisis in the U.S. Housing is a big part of it. You've got tariffs coming on to something that is going to be
politically sensitive in advance of the midterms. And all this you know hoopla over a trade war with Canada is happening at the same time that
Scott Bessent is saying we're going to take on Iran, which essentially makes means taking on China economically, since that's the country taking
most of Iran's oil.
And we're having to prop up the U.S. bond market because there aren't enough foreign investors there. All three of these things together, not a
good place to be for the administration.
KINKADE: No, certainly not. And of course, looking at Canada's press release, they said the U.S. asked too much and offered too little. That was
after the trade talks fell apart late last week. What exactly did Washington ask for that Canada considered unacceptable?
FOROOHAR: Well, I think one of the most really egregious and frankly economically unnecessary demands was that Canada limit its French language
digital and video content streaming. You know that's a sovereign issue.
Canada is a dual language nation. You know it has a French legacy as well as an English legacy. And it's just -- it's really hard to imagine how any
country could take such a demand sitting down.
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I mean, can you imagine going to the French and saying you can't stream French language video? You know, and Mark Carney also is, you know, he's a
person with a lot of pride, a lot of competencies, and I think he made it very clear when he came into his position that he was not going to kowtow
to Trump, and that's what he's doing. That's what he's showing us right now.
KINKADE: I mean, that's what they're pushing back on these dollar-for- dollar retaliatory tariffs, up to $27.6 billion on U.S. goods is what we're going to see. They're going to announce 15, 25 percent, 50 percent tariffs
on a range of products.
Is Canada now making a strategic decision to potentially reduce its economic dependence on the U.S.? Or is this simply wait and see to this
dispute blows over? I'm just going to -- before I come back to you Rana, I just want to listen into this press conference.
FRANCOIS-PHILIPPE CHAMPAGNE, CANADIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: As you have seen, our government has worked intensely and in good faith to reach a mutually
beneficial trade agreement with the United States of America. Minister LeBlanc, our Chief Trade Negotiator Janice Charette, our negotiating team,
and the prime minister worked tirelessly on behalf of all Canadians.
But ultimately, the terms proposed by the U.S. administration were uneconomic, unfair, and ultimately unacceptable. They asked too much of
Canada and offered too little in return. Accepting them would have armed our workers, people that you see here today, weaken our industries and
compromise principles fundamental to our nation. So, we stood up for our workers, we stood up for our businesses, we stood up for Canada.
(FOREIGN LANGUGAGE)
KINKADE: Rana, I want to go back to you and just take a step away from that press conference. We're just listening there to the Minister for Finance
and National Revenue, Francois-Philippe Champagne, speaking about the fact that the deal that the U.S. wanted was uneconomical, unfair, unacceptable.
The Canadians are not only announcing a range of tariffs on goods. They're also going to offer a financial support package for Canadian businesses. Do
you see this as a strategic decision that Canada is making to potentially reduce its economic dependence on the U.S. or is this just a short-term
resolution? Why they wait till this dispute blows over?
FOROOHAR: No, 100 percent, this is a long-term strategic decision, and it did not start at this moment. If you go way back to Davos several months
ago in January, Mark Carney gave a just a barn-burning speech about how the world has changed, the U.S. has changed, and middle powers, countries like
Canada.
But also, many European countries, large Asian countries, Latin American countries are going to have to find new trade alliances, new pathways, and
new ways to move away from the U.S. as a trading partner because the U.S. has proven itself to be.
KINKADE: Rana, we're just -- Rana we're just going to listen to this press conference once more, and I'll come back to you in just a moment.
CHAMPAGNE: (FOREIGN LANGUGAGE) Our existing counter tariffs, including DOW (ph) and automobiles, will remain in place. Canada's remission framework
will also remain available to mitigate unintended consequences for Canadian businesses.
Canada's counter tariffs are designed primarily to provide protection for Canadian industry impacted by U.S. tariffs and allow them to compete
against U.S. products in the Canadian market, it's all about fairness. It's all about level playing field. It's all about supporting Canadian workers
and Canadian businesses.
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Counter tariffs are only one part of our response. We must also provide businesses with liquidity, and most importantly, keep Canadians working. My
colleagues, Minister Joly, Minister Hajdu, and Minister Solomon, will present the new and very substantive measures under their respective
programs.
And I think workers, families, and communities around the nation will see that we're going to stand by you, as we have always done. As Minister of
Finance, I will make changes to the large enterprise tariff loan facility to make it more flexible, more responsive, and better able to support major
employers affected by tariffs across the country.
And I will work closely with my colleagues, Minister Joly, in making sure that we do that as swiftly and efficiently as possible. In fact, our
approach is guided by three principles that we have discussed among minister, that we are committed, rapidity, simplicity, and agility. Because
businesses facing immediate pressure, need programs they can actually access quickly and efficiently.
That is the feedback we receive. That is the commitment that we are making to you today. Canada can act because we enter this period from a position
of strength, and I want Canadians to have confidence. We have the lowest net debt to GDP ratio in the G7, the second fastest growing economy in the
G7, and a triple A credit rating.
(FOREIGN LANGUGAGE)
So, in conclusion, when the United States of America asked too much and offered too little, we made a choice. We chose Canada.
(FOREIGN LANGUGAGE)
So now let's continue to build Canada strong, because we are the true north, strong and free.
KINKADE: Francois-Philippe Champagne, the Minister of Finance for Canada, there announcing retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. after Donald Trump
announced tariffs on up to 20 billion dollars' worth of Canadian goods coming into the U.S.
We've got Rana Foroohar still with us. So, we just heard there from the finance minister, Rana, not just counter tariffs on a range of items,
including auto mobile parts, but also a mitigation package to support businesses in Canada of $7.5 billion. But ultimately, who is going to bear
the brunt of the costs of these tariffs on both sides of that border?
FOROOHAR: Well, for sure, tariffs are borne by consumers. You know, the pain is dependent in some ways on what expenses can be offloaded and what
can't? You know, going back to a comment I made previously, one of the things that's been very price sensitive in the U.S. is housing. We get a
lot of lumber from Canada.
You need wood to build houses, so that's something that's hard to offload. Luxury products, you know, incidentals, certain kinds of consumer goods,
those are easier to offload, and you'll see consumers making different choices when they go shopping. But ultimately, yes, this is something that
is born by the consumer.
But you know, I was very struck by that speech. That was a "Make Canada Great Again" speech, as far as I'm concerned. And I think it reflects
something that you're going to see more and more of, which is localization and regionalization as we move away from a one-size-fits-all world to a
world in which middle powers, you know, countries, large countries with pride and independents like Canada, are going to say, you know, we're just
simply not going to deal with Donald Trump if the terms aren't fair.
KINKADE: Yeah, we heard from the Ontario Leader earlier saying that we can wait this out for two years or less.
FOROOHAR: Yes.
KINKADE: Basically, let's wait this out to the end of the Trump Presidency. And it came not long after President Trump took to Truth Social to say that
Lake Ontario should be called Lake America going forward because the U.S. doesn't expect to do much business with Canada.
Beyond that symbolism, what does that rhetoric do to economically? You know, does it make CEOs, you know, consider this relationship fundamentally
unpredictable?
FOROOHAR: Well, CEOs have thought that Trump was unpredictable since Trump won. Unfortunately, in the U.S. I've been very disappointed that more
haven't stood up to him.
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You know, we've seen a few individuals, very strong individual CEOs saying no. You know, I don't think these policies are right in the wake of the
I.C.E. attacks in Minneapolis, we saw a group of CEOs saying no. We want immigration. We need immigration.
A lot of policies are opposed by business, but whether business will speak out is another question, and that that speaks to something very concerning
about the U.S. economy, which is a growing sense that we are living in an oligopoly, that we're living in a rigged system, that corruption is rife,
that elites.
You know, business and political elites are simply not speaking out against Trump. Oftentimes, when they do, they get primaryed or they get pushed
aside. So, there is still in America a huge cult of personality around this president. I do think if you see a big sweep towards Democrats in the
midterm, particularly you know socialist Democrats, we could see politics changing and more people speaking out.
KINKADE: When you consider the types of industries impacted by the tariffs and retaliatory tariffs, dairy, automobiles, cosmetics, paper products,
alcohol, which of those industries, the CEOs, the leaders, are likely to get on the phone to Donald Trump and say enough is enough.
FOROOHAR: Well, auto in particular. I mean, you've already seen CEOs like Mary Barra, for example, at GM, kind of raising eyebrows at some policies.
Auto is a particularly interesting industry when it comes to Canada. Detroit is, of course, right on the Canada border.
There's a huge supply chain industry that crosses borders, a lot of back and forth in components and parts. I mean, that is something that is going
to make automobiles more expensive on either in either country. Again, you know, you think about what people can't live without a car is one of those
things.
So, I would expect that something like that is going to be, you know, even more important than say your milk or your yogurt.
KINKADE: And let's not forget, Rana, that you know a lot of big companies right now are already trying to spend a fortune clawing back the tariffs
that have already been paid to the government, right? Because courts ruled that much of the tariffs that have already been rolled out under the Trump
Administration shouldn't have happened in the way that they happened, right? So, talk to us about that unraveling that tariff mess that's already
at play.
FOROOHAR: Well, it's just a huge legal issue, and it adds to the bureaucracy, the red tape, and the uncertainty of any policy decision that
does come down. You know, we had a sense that the Supreme Court was probably going to rule that tariffs were illegal.
But you know the practicality of getting that money back then involves lots of lawyers, lots of expenses, and then you have to ask, well, what's coming
next? Business doesn't like this. And I think one of the things this administration doesn't seem to fundamentally understand is that business
has choices now.
Countries have choices now. The U.S. is not the only game in town. I mean, Washington is having to spend money to prop up the U.S. bond market because
there are fewer and fewer foreign buyers of U.S. treasuries because people are worried about the way things are going in this country.
So, you know, the U.S. is an incredible power. The dollar is still the global reserve. But it's you know I always liken what's happening to those
science experiments we used to do in grade school, where you sort of drop the blue dye into a glass of water, and it takes a while, but ultimately it
turns.
That's where we are now. When is it going to turn? And when are we going to see a big correction in the markets because of what this president is
doing?
KINKADE: We'll wait and see, and we will continue to stay across the story. Rana Foroohar, always great to have your analysis. Thanks so much for
joining us.
FOROOHAR: Thank you.
KINKADE: We're going to take a quick break. We will be right back with much more news. You're watching CNN.
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KINKADE: Welcome back, I'm Lynda Kinkade. U.S. President Trump says he'll launch Operation Economic Outcast against Iran as Washington prepares to
further squeeze a country already under international sanctions for nearly 50 years. On Monday, the U.S. Treasury Secretary threatened to crack down
on countries doing business with Tehran after earlier warning of an Economic D-Day.
Scott Bessent did not lay out specific timelines and he did not name specific countries. But experts point to one country in particular that
would be affected. The world's largest energy consumer, China. While the threat of new sanctions could further erode the Trump Administration's
difficult relationship with China.
Beijing is already giving an indication on how it might respond the Chinese Foreign Ministry says sanctions and pressure tactics do not help resolve
the disputes. It's also hinting that Beijing could hit back with its own measures.
CNN's Kevin Liptak joins us now from the White House. Certainly, a lot of moving parts this morning, Kevin. I want to get to China's response. But
also, I want to want your any more details you can provide on Trump's social media post about the Strait of Hormuz now being demined, saying that
the U.S. Navy has had all moved mines removed from the Strait of Hormuz. What can you tell us about that?
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah. And what the president seems to be doing is trying to offer some encouragement to the vessels that
would otherwise be trying to transit the Strait.
You know, the White House has claimed, and the administration has claimed that passages through the Strait of Hormuz are actually higher than perhaps
is reflected on some of the trackers that some of these vessels are going through with the assistance of the American Navy.
But still, there are many indications that it is well below what the rates of passage were before the war began. And what the president seems to be
doing here is trying to stress that it is in fact safe for these ships to go through. So, he's saying that he had been informed by the U.S. Navy that
all mines have been removed and/or detonated from the international waters of the Strait of Hormuz.
And then he goes on to say that Iran had been notified that any ship or boat placing new mines would be immediately and systematically destroyed.
So, really trying to stress that the U.S. does have a handle on getting the Strait reopened, even though discussions with Iran to try and formalize
that through some kind of deal seem to be at a standstill. And so, that's I think what the president is trying to do there, Lynda.
KINKADE: We've also seen a new threat made against the president's youngest son, Barron Trump, on Iranian state media. A multi-million-dollar bounty
placed on his head. How serious is that threat being taken?
LIPTAK: Well, it's being taken very seriously, and in fact, the U.S. Secret Service put out a statement saying that they were quote aware of the video
and that they investigate anything that can be perceived as a threat towards our protectees. But they say that because of operational security,
they don't discuss matters of protective intelligence.
And it is, I think, surprising or alarming at least to see this video out there. You know the Iranians have made many, many threats on President
Trump's life. They've even issued these threats against the First Lady Melania Trump. But this is the first example that we know of mention of the
president's youngest son, Barron, and all of this.
And what this video showed, it was a three-minute video. It aired on Iranian state media, and it opened with this English language graphic
saying where to kill Barron Trump.
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And then it went through in these stylized graphics different locations where he could potentially be, including Trump Tower in New York City. Now,
what law enforcement sources say is that this is all sort of part of a campaign of videos that they have seen from Iranian state media going after
members of the Trump family.
And we know to be sure that the Iranians have talked about potentially assassinating President Trump, going all the way back to his first term
when he ordered the assassination of the General Qasem Soleimani in 2020, and those threats have ramped up ever since the Supreme Leader was
assassinated at the onset of this latest conflict earlier this year.
And so, you do see these very public threats. But to be sure, they're taken very seriously by the Secret Service and by American law enforcement
agencies. That's part of why we saw that swap of airplanes in Turkey last month at the NATO Summit. But now that it has extended beyond the president
himself into his family and to his young son, I think you can expect that this will be taken very seriously.
KINKADE: No doubt, Kevin Liptak outside the White House, we appreciate you. Thank you. I want to turn to global oil prices, which are easing this
Tuesday as traders wait for more details on what the White House calls Iran's Economic D-Day.
You can see there right now, Brent Crude is under $90 a barrel, and WTI, of course, the benchmark is at $82 a barrel right now. So, you can see markets
see some possibility of a de-escalation. Still to come here on "One World", firefighters are gaining some ground on a massive wildfire in Nevada, but
it's too soon to say if the danger has passed.
We'll have the latest on the halt fire ahead. Plus, who gets to vote and who doesn't? We'll explain why the U.S. Supreme Court is backing a
controversial executive order.
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KINKADE: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Lynda Kinkade. Here are some of the headlines we're watching today. Moments ago, Canada announced it will
announce tariffs on American goods ranging from 15 percent to 50 percent starting on September 8th. It's in retaliation to President Trump's 50
percent levy on Canadian goods.
Canada's tariffs on U.S. steel and aluminum will double to 50 percent matching the rate the U.S. charges on Canadian steel and aluminum. The U.S.
Treasury Secretary says the U.S. will crack down on countries that continue to do business with Iran. Scott Bessent did not offer specifics of
potential U.S. measures or give a timeline. His threat puts China front and center for possible U.S. actions. That comes as Iran says it's prepared to
counter U.S. sanctions.
The U.S. Secret Service says it's aware of a video aired by Iran's state broadcaster that appears to threaten the life of Donald Trump's youngest
son Barron. Hardline Iranian media has frequently featured content and includes threats to kill President Trump and his family. This appears to be
the first time 20-year-old Barron has been singled out.
In Haiti, an overnight gang raid has killed nearly 50 people. In recent years, powerful gangs have cemented their influence over the country's
capital and nearby regions. This latest violent attack is raising concerns over Haiti's ability to hold an election in December.
Well, backlash today over a U.S. Supreme Court decision that allows President Trump to begin moving forward with an executive order that
targets mail-in voting. The court's decision does not deal with the legality of Trump's order, but rather the timing of a lawsuit filed by 23
Democratic states.
The justice's main argument is that the legal claims are premature. It comes as Republicans are locked in a tight battle to retain control of
Congress. If Trump's order were to be fully implemented by November, then the restrictions on mail-in voting could disproportionately benefit
Republicans.
This is because Democratic voters are more often likely to use mail-in ballots. Let's discuss this with CNN's John Fritze, who joins us live from
Washington. Good to have you with us, John. So, speak to the significance of this ruling, what was decided and what was not decided?
JOHN FRITZE, CNN REPORTER: Yeah, I really think this is a procedural win for President Trump. It's certainly a symbolic victory for the president.
But in terms of on the ground real world impact, the significance is far, far less. It should be said that roughly a third of Americans vote by mail.
And any voter who intends to cast a ballot by mail in this year's midterm elections won't really see much of an impact from this decision at this
point. And that is because, as you said, Lynda, this case really wasn't on the legality of the president's order. It was really on this issue of
timing.
Did the Democratic states sue at the right time? The Supreme Court said no; they sued too early, and they did so. The court did so in a way that leaves
a lot of room for both states and voting rights groups to essentially seek a do-over in this case.
Now, President Trump did get a more substantial, slightly more substantial win on one piece of this involving the Department of Homeland Security. DHS
will be empowered to create state by state lists of people it deems eligible to vote. That is 18 or over, and U.S. citizens.
Of course, you remember the genesis of this effort was President Trump's false claims of widespread illegal voting by non-citizens. But these lists,
while they will go forward, there's been a lot of question about their significance. The lists will be created, but the order says nothing about
what state election officials are to do with them. So, the lists get created, and that's possibly the last time we hear about them.
KINKADE: All right, John Fritze, good to have you with us. We are going to stay on this topic. I do want to welcome Professor of Law at the University
of Notre Dame, Derek Muller, joins us now. Derek, good to have you with us.
DEREK MULLER, PROFESSOR OF LAW, UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME: Thanks for having me.
KINKADE: So, the Supreme Court did not rule that Trump's mail-in ballot order is constitutional. Just what exactly did the court rule? Take us
through the decision.
MULLER: Right. So, President Trump issued an order asking the Department of Homeland Security and the Postal Service to create some rules and implement
some steps with respect to proof of citizenship for voters, or that is identifying who is or is not an eligible voter? And then also to say we
want to get some lists about who is receiving these absentee ballots, and so a group of states sued immediately.
And what the Supreme Court said in yesterday's decision is, look, when you sue all, you had was an executive order. There was no rule. We don't know
what the rule would look like. We don't know that they would come out with a rule ahead of the 2026 election.
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There were so many unknowns that we are just going to send this case back and allow you to litigate it further while we wait for the rule. Now, while
the court issued that decision Monday, late Friday night the Postal Service did come out with a rule, so there will be litigation now this week about
the content of that rule itself.
KINKADE: And so, we're so close to the midterms, right? But we're also very close to some states sending out their ballots. North Carolina is going to
send ballots to the military and overseas voters in less than two weeks. Is there realistically enough time to implement these changes if there is a
decision in the next couple of weeks?
MULLER: So, particularly with the absentee ballot envelope design, the Postal Service came out with regulations which you might view as sensible
to say this is what the ballots should look like, the envelopes should look like. There should be an intelligent mail barcode on the ballot, which many
states do use, but many states don't do that.
Many smaller jurisdictions don't do that. Many of them might not comply. Many of them don't have the resources to comply at this date. So, I think,
especially as we think, yes, as you note, North Carolina will start mailing out absentee ballots in less than two weeks.
Virtually all states are required by federal law by the middle of September to begin mailing out absentee ballots. It seems exceedingly unlikely that
these jurisdictions are just physically capable of meeting the rules' demands in the next couple of weeks without extraordinary cost or delaying
the mailing of those absentee ballots. It's a reason why I think many people doubt that this rule will take effect for the 2026 election.
KINKADE: But we could potentially see a case where you've got different mail-in procedures in different states, right depending on which court
cases, which injunctions apply to them?
MULLER: That's possible. Yes, part of it is only as you mentioned, 23 democratically led states are the ones that led this challenge, and so the
injunction might only apply to those states. At the same time, there's another group, the League of Women Voters, and some other parties who are
suing to enjoin it, and that might operate much more broadly.
So, the injunction could apply on a nationwide basis, which it appears that's what they're arguing in that case. So, there is some uncertainty.
Again, some of the states might want to try to move in that direction one day, saying we would love to have an absentee ballot system that looks like
this.
Many of them, I think, would be skeptical about trying to submit lists of voters who are receiving absentee ballots, especially because those are
happening on a rolling basis, jurisdictions are doing this constantly, finding new absentee voters.
And it's not just 50 states; it's thousands of local election officials at the county or the municipal level who are administering this. So, it's a
tremendous amount of work, and again, seems extremely unlikely it will take place by the 2026 election.
KINKADE: And Derek, Trump's order calls for the Department of Homeland Security to develop lists of U.S. citizens and send them to the states.
What would the states actually be required to do with those lists?
MULLER: So, the executive order has nothing in its terms that forces the states to do anything. Instead, it's just that the Department of Homeland
Security develops the citizenship list and sends it out to the states.
Now, ideally, if the states receive this information, this can be one of the tools they use when they're engaged in what we call list maintenance,
looking at registered voters and trying to figure out whether or not those voters are eligible.
I think the concerns are less that Department of Homeland Security is sending out those lists and more what they might be used for people who
would misinterpret them. People who would think, well, this is the definitive list of voters. But of course, the United States government
doesn't have a definitive list of all eligible voters or all citizens in the United States.
It will have some data, a lot of data, but it will be imperfect data. A lot will turn on how the states use it? How careful they are in using it? Using
it to supplement the evaluation of whether or not there are non-citizens on their voter rolls.
KINKADE: Derek Muller, we will continue to follow this story and watch as this plays out legally. Good to have you with us. Thank you.
MULLER: Thank you.
KINKADE: Well, firefighters are gaining ground in a massive wildfire burning near Reno, Nevada, but the weather that's expected in the coming
days could make conditions a whole lot worse. The Hawk Fire, now 27 percent contained, had already scorched more than 6,000 hectares. That's about
15,000 acres in just a couple of days.
Tens of thousands of people have been ordered to get out of their homes. Many have turned to local shelters and are encouraging others to do the
same.
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LAUNA BRINTON, EVACUEE: What I understand, there's a couple people left at the apartment complex because they had no place to go. And I was telling
another person that lives there, well, tell them to come to the convention center. I mean, I would not want to be in the line of fire.
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KINKADE: Well, forecasters say strong winds and low humidity are expected to return in the next few days, making conditions even tougher for
firefighters. We're also seeing extreme heat fueling a fast-moving wildfire in North Texas. The Ross Fire has spread at an alarming rate since Monday
afternoon, devouring an area equivalent to about 35 American football fields every single minute. At last check, the blaze was only 5 percent
contained.
Well, now to a cautionary tale about travel and extreme heat. A French tourist has died after he and his companion became stranded while driving
through California's Death Valley. The National Park Service says the two left their car and began walking in search of help, but the 68-year-old had
to stop after about a mile.
He was found later by rescue crews. An extreme heat warning is in place for Death Valley, America's largest national park outside of Alaska. The Park
Service says staying in your vehicle is often the safest choice. No power, spoiled food, and empty grocery shelves. That's the grim reality for
thousands of people still in the dark in Northern Indiana two weeks after a devastating storm.
The situation has become so dire that Indiana's Governor is calling for the regional power utility to be investigated, including whether it maintained
vegetation and spent state funding for upgrades as promised. The utility says power is expected to be fully restored by Tuesday. Reporter Gabe
Ferris from CNN Affiliate WLS has the details from Hammond, Indiana.
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GABE FERRIS, CNN AFFILIATE WLS (Voice-over): Tonight Hammond, Indiana, spending yet another night in the dark. Power still out for thousands of
customers after last week's storms.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because you can't cook.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You don't have anything. You don't have gas. You don't have stove. There's no electricity.
FERRIS (voice-over): Laury Boss (ph), one of the organizers of this food giveaway. Hundreds lining up outside.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything's not hot, but tonight everything is hot here. Chicken, spaghetti, string beans, cake, generals-everything is made
with love tonight.
FERRIS (voice-over): NIPSCO officials saying their crews are working around the clock, but today a setback, 9,000 more customers losing power in the
Schererville area. Witnesses seeing smoke coming from this power pole.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We heard a pretty big boom, and then we started to look out and saw the power line go down, and then just saw a lot of smoke
after that.
FERRIS (voice-over): Across the street, Wendy Commissar (ph) was inside Ross when the electricity went out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The lights started flickering in the store. Yeah, that was scary. It's like, and everybody in the store is going, oh no, not
again.
FERRIS (voice-over): Commissar, one of the NIPSCO customers, lost power at her home again.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This time, I'm a little more prepared. I was not prepared last time, you know, with charges for my phone and all that kind
of stuff.
FERRIS (voice-over): NIPSCO today saying storm restoration efforts continued as their crews also responded to the Schererville incident. No
word tonight about the cause.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just feel like we could wish we could do more. I wish we could do more.
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KINKADE: We got to take a quick break. We'll be right back with much more news.
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KINKADE: Continuing our Africa Inc Series, we're looking at the financial realities facing African music artists. While the world may be listening,
the paper stream in markets like Nigeria doesn't always add up. As Adefemi Akinsanya reports, for many, going global isn't just an option; it's an
economic necessity.
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ADEFEMI AKINSANYA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Every year, Afro Nation puts some of the biggest names in African music in front of an audience
drawn from around the world. For the artists selected, the stage offers more than exposure; it's a chance to test their music, their performance,
and their ability to convert listeners into fans. Young Jong came to Afro Nation backed by one of Nigeria's longest-established music companies,
Chocolate City.
IBUKUN AIBEE ABIDOYE, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, CHOCLATE CITY MUSIC: I think it was just about time for him to get on the Afro Nation stage, and
we're really happy that he had an opportunity to perform, but he'd been doing Europe, he'd been doing the U.S. he'd been doing. I think he has
Australia, Canada. For the first time, he'll be going to the U.K.
AKINSANYA (voice-over): Chocolate City has been playing the global game for several years now, since partnering with one of music's biggest
conglomerates in 2019.
AKINSANYA: There was a decision to join forces with Warner Music Group. Talk to us about that decision. Why at that time?
ABIDOYE: I think if we cast our minds back to the entertainment business at that time, thinking 2005 up until 2019, a lot of music businesses were
bootstrapping. We have to obviously celebrate the Telcos and the big sort of breweries at that time who funded a lot of the music businesses. But if
we needed to go global, we needed the kind of support and the backbone that I think most major companies have.
AKINSANYA (voice-over): Others see the international market as an immediate economic necessity.
MOBOLAJI KAREEM, REGIONAL DIRECTOR WEST AFRICA, EMPIRE: I know some people would think, no, you don't need to run to America. Bro, please do run,
because at the end of the day, there is something called the economic.
AKINSANYA (voice-over): In his role with U.S.-based music company Empire, Mobolaji Kareem has helped many of the African artists on their roster make
strides off the continent.
KAREEM: The record label invested in you. They never invested in you in Nairobi. They invested in dollars. Now, it's expected for you to recoup.
You realize that the economic factor of streaming does not equate back to what we're getting.
An example, a million streams in Nigeria or in South Africa. It's when you quantify the money it brings is equivalent to maybe 10,000 or 15,000 people
streaming in Sweden. Now it's good to have the house but it doesn't speak about the -- collected as an artist.
AKINSANYA (voice-over): And it's usually the job of an artist's management to leverage all the opportunities available.
KEVIN BOAKYE, CO-FOUNDER & CFO, AFRICA CREATIVE AGENCY: These days, most people will tell you music is kind of a lost leader. I think there's still
tremendous amount of value in music, right? Streaming is obviously one fundamental way to command value, but then there's also getting your music
synced in a film and a TV show, and having those different opportunities for visibility there.
But these days, the true opportunity is around the fan, right? Around those true fans who are willing to buy merch, buy a ticket to come and see you at
a show, come and attend something live. And if you're able to command a genuine relationship with a core group of fans who will continue to invest
in you over time, you've actually built something that's sustainable.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Africa Inc in association with Dangote.
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KINKADE: With this just into CNN, we've learned that the Director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, has traveled to Moscow overnight to meet with Russian
officials. That's according to a U.S. official who did not say why John Ratcliffe went to Russia or what he was there to talk about.
We do know that Washington asked Ukraine to halt drone and missile strikes on Moscow and other parts of Russia ahead of his trip. Negotiations to end
the war between Ukraine and Russia have stalled. The CIA has not commented. We'll bring you more details as we get them.
A specifically tailored version of the world's most popular chat bot came out last week. OpenAI says ChatGPT for teens offers a safer environment for
young users. It comes at a time when social media and AI companies are fending off lawsuits over their impact on children. Jenn Sullivan tells us
what parents need to know.
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JENN SULLIVAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Artificial intelligence chat bots can respond to any type of question, so it's no wonder 70 percent of
kids 13 to 17 say they're using AI tools to help with homework, according to a recent survey from Common Sense Media. So how can parents ensure their
kids are using it safely?
UNIDENTIFIED FEFMALE: Our safety work is never done.
SULLIVAN (voice-over): Lauren Jonas is the Head of Youth Well-Being and Families at OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT. OpenAI recently rolled out
its new ChatGPT for teens feature aimed at keeping teens safe. Users who identify at sign up that they are under 18 will automatically be placed in
protective settings.
When it comes to AI sites, ChatGPT is the most popular among teens, with more than half saying they've used it, according to a Pew Research Center
study published in December.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The goal is for this to be a learning tool for teens.
SULLIVAN (voice-over): The new features include things like suggestions for minors to take breaks after they've been active for 90 minutes within a
three-hour window. Parents and teens can set quiet hours where ChatGPT is unavailable. There's also a study hours mode that gives directions, not
fast answers.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is 24/7, 365, a continuous effort to make sure that we're getting teens the support that they need in the moments that
they need it.
SULLIVAN (voice-over): OpenAI has faced scrutiny over concerns that ChatGPT can harm young people, including lawsuits from families who allege that
ChatGPT contributed to their child's suicide. The company has pushed back on those allegations. For Consumer Watch, I'm Jenn Sullivan.
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KINKADE: Well, for the second year in a row, China has hosted the World Humanoid Robot Games in Beijing. This humanoid, have a look, could not do
the heavy lifting. The robot starts off well before struggling with the weight and taking a tumble. But it was no sweat for many others. Some even
broke records set by the world's greatest track stars. The games conclude today.
Well, finally, before we go this hour, France and Saudi Arabia are collaborating to build a $7 billion theme park based on the popular Manga
Dragon Ball Z. The two countries signed an agreement to build a park near Paris.
French officials say the President Emmanuel Macron and Saudi Crime Prince Mohammed bin Salman discovered a shared enthusiasm for the series in 2025.
Construction is expected to take several years.
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And French officials say the project will create some 22,000 jobs. I'm Lynda Kinkade. Great to have your company. Do stay with CNN. There's much
more "One World" with my colleague Bianna Golodryga, after a very short break.
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