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Families Desperate for Word on Missing Loved Ones in Nepal; Widespread Damage at Nepal-China Border after Deadly Floods; Texas Frees I.C.E. Agent Accused in Minnesota Shooting; Images & Videos Show How Flooding Unfolded at Nepal Border; White House: No Negotiations Happening Between U.S. and Iran; Firefighters Rescue Puppy Stuck in Drainage Pipe. Aired 11a-12p ET
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ELENI GIOKOS, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Live from Abu Dhabi. I'm Eleni Giokos. Zain is off today. This is "One World". One Nepali survivor says the floods
came in suddenly and exploded like a bomb. Authorities in Nepal warned the danger is far from over. A day after catastrophic flash floods tore through
Nepal-China border.
Now rescuers are using helicopters to search for survivors and drop emergency supplies. The flood swallowed bridges and roads, leaving entire
communities buried under mud. At least 350 people have been killed, and more than 1,300 are still missing in Nepal and in Tibet, controlled by
China.
The disaster zone includes a popular destination called Mount Kailash. The mountain and a lake near the border are revered by pilgrims of several
religions. We want to warn you that the video you see is going to be disturbing. Right, you may have seen some of this shocking footage that
we've been showing, which basically gives a sense of the moment a wall of water and debris crashed over and into a border post, and you can see
people running.
Then the massive wave wiping out everything in its path. The U.S. Geological Survey now says the disaster was triggered by a glacial collapse
equal to a 5.2 magnitude quake. Scientists say a huge chunk of ice sheared off from high up the mountain and plunged into the river below. CNN is on
the scene in Nepal. Here's Hanako Montgomery's report for you.
HANAKO MONTGOMERY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Just below me is one of the rivers that saw some extreme flooding over 24 hours ago, the Trishuli River. And I
don't know if you can see, but just a little far in the distance, there is a suspension bridge that has been partially destroyed.
Now, this suspension bridge helped villagers in this remote area go from one part of the country to the other side in this little isolated island
area here. But again, because this suspension bridge has been partially damaged, no one's been able to go across and actually ascertain who here on
the other side needs rescuing.
GIOKOS: Gage Goulding joins us now from Hong Kong with the latest. Gage, I mean, we're seeing some of this devastating footage and really just very
disturbing. We have some of the numbers right now, but I wonder what you're hearing in terms of the rescue operations that are currently on the go.
GABE GOULDING, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, you know, obviously it's now night time in Nepal so rescue operations are probably pausing or becoming even
more perilous as they go into the nighttime hours. But it has been a very difficult process.
We've seen videos of rescue workers pretty much crawling through this thick, sludgy mud because it's not just the water that came down, but it
brought with it thick layers of silt and mud and just all kinds of debris that just coated everything in its path.
You know, we saw images of bulldozers needing to dig through just I mean feet of this thick silt just to get down to the roadway and get some of
these, you know, riverside towns accessible. And you go back to the numbers we're hearing about 350 plus confirmed killed here, but more than 1000
still missing.
Those numbers likely to increase. But we're also getting some indications of some hope, some silver linings here, if you will. 31 foreign nationals,
according to the Nepali Tourism Board were rescued. That includes two from the USA. But again, if you look on the other side of that line, there's
some 600 plus tourists that are still missing or unaccounted for.
But you know you're looking for those little pockets there of you know people that are waiting for their loved ones, trying to find their family
members trying to be of the very few that survive this water. You look at some of the video, especially that that now iconic video of the water
coming over that port building there.
And you just sit there and wonder how could someone survive this? Yet there are still families out there that are praying and vying for any chance that
their loved one was the one that survived. Here's one of them.
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BHIM BAHADU, LOCAL RESIDENT: His phone was unreachable. Then we heard that a landslide had come down from that side. We still don't know whether he is
alive because we haven't been able to reach. My brother has also gone there by car to see if he can find our father. We have hope that our father may
be alive.
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GOULDING: So, you might be wondering exactly how does this happen? How does this much water get forced down? And you kind of touched on it there. This
was a glacial avalanche. We're understanding that a about 2000-foot-wide piece of glacier, as well as another 2000-foot-wide section of rock, fell
approximately 7000 feet in elevation down into the water, sending what can only be described as a wall of water to those people that simply just were
not anticipating it.
GIOKOS: Right, Gage Goulding really good to have you with us. Thank you so much for that update. I'm now joined by Rabin Dahal with Save the Children
Nepal. He joins us from Kathmandu. Thank you so much for joining us. As we're seeing some of these devastating images, I want you to give me sort
of a sense of what rescue operations have been on the go and what you're dealing with on the ground?
RABIN DAHAL, COORDINATOR, SAVE THE CHILDREN: Yeah, thank you. So today I'm currently at Nuwakot, the one of the hardest hit areas. And we have been
operating here with the response in the different locations, which are like approachable by the roads. So today we supported a family package with the
baby packs for children, silt kits, wash kits, kitchen utensils, dignity kits for number of families.
We reached 186 families today, and we are planning for 1,000 more additional families. Many people are living in the holding centers in the
public areas here. And the security forces are busy with the rescue operations here. Today, only they have like rescued for more than 200
people who are stuck on the way to Mount Kailash, who are on the way to Gosaikunda Pilgrimage in Nepal.
And also, to the students who are stopped on their midway to their home and schools. So, the situation is very, very worrying and miserable here. Lots
of people have lost their families. Today, also we have like supported transportation for 10 students were stopped here for three days, and we
like -- we were able to reunion them with their families.
So, it was a great experience for us as well. But it's a very miserable and like very worrying condition here in the ground. People are still waiting
for their families. Many people are not like accounted for, and many people are they don't know the condition either. They are alive or they are
missing because many dead bodies are found in the rivers in the banks today as well.
So, this is the condition here. Besides that, like there is a huge scarcity of drinking water as the drinking supply system water was damaged here.
There is a very limited kind of supply of water, drinking water. And also, there is a few chances of like disease outbreak here now, as the hygiene --
they cannot maintain the hygiene.
And wash facilities are destroyed in many of the places. So, and also the children are seeking the care, like children are in very traumatic
conditions. So, overall, this is the general scenario in the ground here and but there are very limited relief item support in the ground yeah thank
you.
GIOKOS: Yeah. Rabin you know I want to talk about the impact on children. And we've also heard reports of some children being separated from their
parents as rescue operations are still on the go. Could you give me a sense of how you're able to intervene and assist some of the children and some of
the families that have been separated?
DAHAL: Yeah, many children were separated while they were traveling towards their schools. And now the security forces are like trying to trace where
the students are like stocked or if they are safe or not. So today only they have rescued a student of 40 in one area, where they were like living
in the jungle area, in the forest area for two days.
And also, there are lots of students who are like staying in the hostels in the -- like in their relatives here, and they are totally disconnected with
their families. And also, they are like wearing the same clothes from three or four days. And they are suffering with the -- like wash facilities, they
are suffering with the trauma.
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And they are like very, very eagerly waiting to meet their families as well. But from this night, there is like electricity restored here in
Nuwakot, so the phone is like quite more reachable. Till yesterday, the phone and all the communications were like dead, and people were just
seeking the areas where they can recharge their phones as well. From today, the situation is like quite a bit easier due to the electricity. But yeah.
GIOKOS: So, Rabin, you mentioned something very critical here, is that some areas have been cut off from electricity. You mentioned water, lack of
access to clean drinking water. How many areas still don't have access to electricity? We're seeing devastating impact on infrastructure as well. Is
this a concern going forward?
DAHAL: Yeah, there are lots of places. The upper part from Nuwakot, like the Rasuwa area, is completely that is the electricity, the transportation,
the markets are totally like dysfunctional. And it's very hard to reach to those communities.
And the authorities are seeking the alternative way. And there is only helicopter is the only option for to deliver the relief items at the moment
to the upper part from Nuwakot, the District Head Quarter we called Bidur. In Bidur there is an army base camp, like a trading center of army base
camp, and all the hilly operations, rescue operations are being operated from here. There are more than like 20 or 30 communities which are
completely --
GIOKOS: Rabin Dahal, thank you so much for that insight. Good luck to you and your teams on the ground. A lot of hard work on the go. Thank you so
much. Forecasters say the flooded region could see more rain in the coming hours. CNN Meteorologist Allison Chinchar takes a look at how this deadly
disaster unfolded.
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yeah. So, what was initially thought was that this was actually triggered by an earthquake. Here you can see
that dot, but now what the U.S. Geological Survey is saying is that's not the case. This was a landslide, a very powerful landslide that was so
powerful it actually triggered and measured a 5.2 tremor on the seismograph machines.
Now to kind of put this in perspective to show you the area where this is taking place, it's in the Himalayan region where that landslide took place.
And we've got the little marker here so you can kind of see where that starting point was? We zoom in to give you a little bit better perspective.
Now, if the landslide initiated in this general region, everything surrounding it would fall down with it. So, you're going to have ice,
you're going to have water, you're going to have rocks, even some boulders that comes down with it down into the valley below. This is the glacier
tongue that then flows down into the river valley.
And to kind of show you some before and after images of what we're talking about here, this is image taken yesterday. Now it's flipped upside down, so
this is the same glacier tongue we just showed you. But focus here on the green area. Now we fast forward to today, and all of those green changes to
brown, just showing all of that debris flow of where everything went as that landslide continued down along the valley floor, and it wasn't just in
one place.
Again, you kind of show this area, but then we widen out to kind of show you where it goes from there. It continues to follow down through the river
valley and into this particular area where we have several buildings here. Now, everything would have flowed down in this direction before reaching
those buildings.
And the video here clearly shows all of that debris from that landslide just sliding into that area, just demolishing all of those buildings that
were in that general region. But this isn't the only spot. Again, that water, that debris, everything along with it is just going to continue to
go down through the valley, even more so, where you actually then end up having some villages, some towns that were impacted.
So, we zoom in here to kind of give you a general layout of these neighboring towns that are here. We zoom in a little bit farther north, and
you can start to see this bridge right through here. OK, now we're going to show you some video of that bridge.
There is that wall of water and debris just racing down here, flowing not just through where normal water would go, but also into the surrounding
buildings, the streets, everything that's there. And it is such an immense amount of water and debris that comes through. At some point, this bridge
eventually just gives way.
It's just simply too much of a force for it to be able to hold steady enough. And you'll see it here. It's just about to go, and then it will
also follow along with all of the rest of the debris that's being pushed down by this immense flow.
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It also continues to spread into there. You can see it kind of go there. It spreads into a lot of these buildings, so those buildings also start to
sustain some damage as well. So again, just kind of giving you that overall scope. This was not just one particular area that was hit; it was multiple
areas that were hit, and that's why we're seeing so many of these videos come out.
GIOKOS: Right, Allison Chinchar, there for us. We're focusing heavily on Nepal, and we'll bring you an update a little later. Now, the U.S. is
sending another aircraft carrier to the Middle East. The USS Theodore Roosevelt, the aircraft carrier, is expected to spend at least seven months
there.
The Navy is dealing with fallout from the USS Abraham Lincoln's deployment to the region. It spent just over eight months at sea without a port call,
raising concerns about sailors' mental health and low supplies. The USS George Washington relief the Lincoln last week.
The White House says no negotiations are happening between the U.S. and Iran. Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said a short time ago that the U.S.
is focusing on applying economic pressure, and she says the White House is calling it Operation Economic Outcast. She also said that President Trump
is keeping all options on the table.
We have CNN Senior White House Reporter Kevin Liptak joining us now live with more. Kevin, good to see you. You've got on one hand Karoline Leavitt
saying no negotiations on the go. They're focusing on economic sanctions leveled against Iran. In the meantime, we're also hearing there are efforts
regionally to try and open the doors for further negotiation. What are you hearing in terms of the status of where things stand right now?
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Right. And what the president seems focused on is trying to choke off Iran economically. That
has been kind of the theme of this week. The Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent laying out that initiative on Monday.
But really since then we haven't heard much about these conversations that he said the administration was having with some of Iran's trading partners,
you know, China, India, the United Arab Emirates. He claimed that President Trump had been on the phone with leaders from those countries trying to put
pressure on them to cut off their financial ties with Iran.
We haven't heard any more about those conversations, nor have we heard about the major financial institution that Bessent said would be added to
the sanctions list very imminently. And so, a lot still to learn about that initiative that he said was underway.
We do know about one conversation that the administration has had this week, and that was with Russia, the CIA Director John Ratcliffe heading to
Moscow to have a conversation, including about Iran pressuring Russia to cut off its financial ties with Tehran. He was also there to warn Russia
against a potential attack on a NATO country.
And that has been something that U.S. and European officials have been worried about. That potentially, Putin, you know, with the stalemate
underway in Ukraine, might use that as a way to test the NATO alliance. Now, when it comes back to Iran, yes, there are these discussions about
trying to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
You hear about potential agreements between Iran and Oman, that both of those countries would come to some sort of arrangement where the waterway
would be reopened. American officials have been skeptical of those negotiations, fearful that that could solidify Iran's control over the
Strait, which had been open to free traffic before the war began.
But which now Iran continues to wield its power over, including by targeting some of the vessels going through. You see that continuing up
until today. And so, how all of that gets resolved unclear. So too is unclear whether the administration will actually levy those secondary
sanctions that they promised would go into effect this week as they try and get countries to cut off their financial ties.
And so, it still, I think, at this point, remains something of a standstill diplomatically. But at least for President Trump's part, he is declaring
this mission accomplished. He put that on Truth Social yesterday.
GIOKOS: All right, Kevin Liptak, good to see you. Thank you. Andrew and Tristan Tate appeared in a Miami courtroom this morning. Their attorney
asked a judge to release them on bail as they fight extradition to the UK, where they face charges of nearly 60 sex-related crimes.
The brothers and social media influencers have not yet entered a plea, but both have denied any wrongdoing. The former kickboxers have been in federal
custody in Miami since July. CNN's Carolina Peguero has more on today's hearing from Miami.
CAROLINA PEGUERO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Today could be a very decisive day for the future of the Tate Brothers. They've been in federal prison and in
solitary confinement for more than a month since they were arrested back in July by U.S. marshals here in Miami as they were headed to a boxing match.
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Now Andrew and Tristan Tate will be in Federal Court today to face the judge in charge of this case as well as the request of extradition from the
U.K. authorities. Andrew and Tristan Tate face a total of 59 charges, including alleged rape, sexual and physical assault, and human trafficking.
While their lawyers and the brothers also deny all wrongdoing.
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JOSEPH D. MCBRIDE, TATE BROTHERS' ATTORNEY: Innocent men don't give in. Innocent men don't run from the law. They run to the law. They lean into
the process. The idea that Andrew and Tristan Tate are somehow dangerous is ridiculous.
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PEGUERO: The lawyer also has been very vocal about the conditions in which the brothers have been in the last month or so, as far as the food that
they've received in this federal prison and in custody, they say they will fight for their innocence.
As over the weeks, they've received also support from different young men that have come to the outside of this federal prison with signs just
showing their support and for them to be freed. We'll wait on the results of the judge in charge of this case. Carolina Peguero, CNN, Miami.
GIOKOS: In another closely watched court case, closing arguments are under way in the trial of a Massachusetts mother who killed her three young
children. Lindsay Clancy's attorney says she should not be held criminally responsible for the killings because she was suffering from postpartum
psychosis at the time.
He called her a darn good mother and said she received lousy medical care for mental illness. The jury has been instructed to focus on the idea of
criminal responsibility, noting to convict the 36-year-old of murder. Prosecutors have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she intentionally
caused the deaths and is criminally responsible. Here's what her attorney said on Wednesday.
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KEVIN REDDINGTON, ATTORNEY FOR LINDSAY CLANCY: I hope to convey that I truly, you know, care and love. I love her. She's just such a marvelous,
sweet, innocent person. She's just amazing and so strong and just praying so hard to get up from -- 3.5 years and she -- all I can do is hope for the
best.
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GIOKOS: Lindsay Clancy acted intentionally, rationally, and swiftly to kill her children. She faces life in prison if found guilty of murder. If the
jury finds her not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility, prosecutors could petition the court to have her committed to a mental
health facility.
And still ahead on "One World", Texas has just freed an I.C.E. agent facing charges in a Minnesota shooting. We'll explain why officials refused to
extradite him. We'll be back right after this.
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GIOKOS: In the next few hours, a group of lawyers will ask a judge to put his name back on the Kennedy Center in Washington. This after another judge
ordered his name off the building. A Democratic Congresswoman brought the suit, saying putting Trump's name on the Performing Arts Center violates
federal law and defies that ruling. That Trump says Trump's name must be kept off it.
Trump's allies on the center's board also want the facility shut down for two years of renovations. Coming up in the next hour show, we'll hear from
the lead attorney in the push for more oversight in the changes to the Kennedy Center.
Texas has freed an I.C.E. agent facing charges in a Minnesota shooting. The shooting happened in January during the immigration crackdown in
Minneapolis. Agent Christian Castro is accused of shooting an immigrant and lying about it, he was detained in Texas, but the state refused to
extradite him.
Officials said they were investigating whether Castro is technically a fugitive. He was released today because Texas limits the number of days a
fugitive can be detained. CNN's Ed Lavandera is live for us in Dallas with more. Ed, good to see you. Give us a little bit more insight about
releasing Castro and how important this moment is in this case.
ED LAVANDERA, CNN SENIOR U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this has escalated into a stunning political fight between officials in Texas and
the State of Minnesota as well. But as you mentioned, Christian Castro was released from custody in a county jail in South Texas earlier this morning.
"The Associated Press" captured photos of him leaving the jail. As you mentioned, there was this deadline for him to be released. And this is
happening because since he was arrested in late May, the State of Minnesota has been trying to get Castro extradited back to Minnesota so he could face
these multiple criminal felony charges stemming from the shooting back in January in Minnesota.
The State of Texas and the Governor has refused to sign those extradition orders so far. The Governor has been saying that he's not exactly sure
whether or not Castro is a fugitive, and that he's ordered state agencies to investigate if that is indeed the case.
The attorney general in Minnesota put out a statement saying that Greg Abbott is turning Texas into a sanctuary state for violent criminals. But
regardless of today's ruling, Christian Castro will not escape justice in Minnesota.
And the Governor, just a short while ago, Governor here in Texas, Greg Abbott, tweeted back essentially at the state of Minnesota saying, you guys
are such bad lawyers. You showed up unprepared, uninformed, and unpersuasive. You don't know the law, and it showed Minnesota is the
literal definition of a sanctuary state because you refused to assist in enforcing immigration laws.
So, this has turned incredibly political, and it has intensified. All the while, the local prosecutors and the county attorney there in Minneapolis
is urging the governor to sign those extradition orders to get Castro back to Minnesota.
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MARY MORIARTY, HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY: To be clear, the court's order today did not say that Governor Abbott will never have to sign the
extradition warrant. And it certainly does not say that he cannot sign it today.
In fact, Governor Abbott still has the opportunity to prevent Christian Castro from walking out of jail and possibly into Mexico. He can choose to
stop harboring a fugitive from justice by simply signing the extradition paperwork today.
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LAVANDERA: Now it's not exactly clear what is going to happen next. Minnesota officials in court filings have expressed concern that Castro
might try to flee to Mexico to avoid these criminal charges. They say they have recordings of Castro talking to people that he knows in Mexico where
he's talking about hoping to retire in Mexico.
So, there is some concern about where exactly he might go now that he's been released. So, we will continue to follow this to see exactly where
this story ends up. And as this political fight between the Governor of Texas and Minnesota officials simply just escalates intensely.
GIOKOS: All right, Ed Lavendera, thank you so much for that update. Still ahead on "One World" after that deadly flash flood in Nepal and China, what
could have caused the disaster? With our Chief Climate Reporter, that's coming up after this. Plus, Qatar's Prime Minister arriving in Tehran for
talks to de-escalate tensions in the Middle East.
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GIOKOS: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Eleni Giokos, live in Abu Dhabi. Here are some of your headlines and what we're watching today. More than
1,300 people are still missing after catastrophic flash floods hit Nepal and China Wednesday. The death toll in Nepal has claimed more than 350
people. Search and rescue operations are being hampered by a lack of connectivity, power, and resources.
In a Miami, Florida courtroom this morning, attorneys for online influences Andrew and Tristan Tate asked a judge to release them on bail as they fight
extradition to the UK, where they face a combined 59 sex crime charges. The Tate Brothers have not entered a plea, but both have denied the
allegations.
Ratko Mladic, known as the Butcher of Bosnia, has died. The 84-year-old led the Srebrenica massacre and the Siege of Sarajevo in the 1990s, a UN court
convicted Mladic of charges including genocide and crimes against humanity.
Closing arguments are under way in the murder trial of Massachusetts mother Lindsay Clancy. Her attorney says she should not be held criminally
responsible for the killings of her three young children, arguing she was suffering from postpartum psychosis at the time. Prosecutors say Clancy
knew right from wrong when she strangled her children.
More now on our top story, the devastating flash flooding on the border region between Nepal and China scientists believe an enormous chunk of
glacier sheared off from a mountain on Wednesday. From there, it plunged into a river below a CNN analysis shows. CNN has obtained satellite images
and videos that show how the deadly flooding unfolded. Investigative Reporter Yahya Abou Ghazala has the story for us.
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YAHYA ABOU GHAZALA, CNN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER (voice-over): Catastrophic flash flooding has devastated parts of Nepal and China, with the death toll
still rapidly increasing and hundreds stiller missing. Here's what we know about how the flood began and where it spread.
At 08:37 a.m. local time in this area, a massive landslide of ice and rocks caused intense shaking. Take a look at this satellite image captured after
the landslide and reviewed by CNN.
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Though covered largely by clouds, you can see where scientists believe a chunk of a glacier sheared off the mountain. The falling rock and ice
carved a 3,000-foot-wide, four-mile-long gash into the slope below it, all the way down to the river, the flood would run along.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is massive. This is something that we have not seen quite often. Just the flood wave, the amount of water that was gushing
through these valleys, is going to have a major impact for significant amount of the time down the road.
GHAZALA (voice-over): Researchers are still investigating exactly how the landslide triggered such a large current, as the flooding tore through
several locations. This security camera footage at the Nepal-China border captured floodwaters overrunning the crossing, including a five-storey
building.
And further downstream, you can see people running to higher ground as they try to escape. The heavy floodwaters also ran right through residential
areas along the riverbed, and in other locations, it completely destroyed infrastructure. Like this video that shows the water breaking apart an
entire bridge and sweeping it into the current.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can't pinpoint to one incident and say that climate change caused this particular incident, but it would be foolish to ignore
the role of climate change in any of these events. The climate change role has been clear in terms of warming the slopes and melting the glaciers in
that region.
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GIOKOS: I want to go now live to New York. We've got CNN Senior Climate Correspondent Bill Weir. Bill, good to see you. We're seeing some of these
devastating images, and we've spoken extensively over the years of the risk of glaciers, you know, coming off mountains, breaking off big pieces of
ice.
This is absolutely devastating to see how it can impact a massive population like we're seeing in Nepal. What was your initial response when
you saw some of the images, and importantly, the news that this wasn't actually an earthquake, but rather because of a glacier?
BILL WEIR, CNN CHIEF CLIMATE CORRESPONDENT: Right. It was the glacier and the landslide that caused the earthquake, not the earthquake that caused
the landslide. It was staggering, Elein. I mean, the first my first thought was that is a what's known as a GLOTH, a global lake outburst flood, and
this is becoming more common as these big rivers of ice melt high in the mountains.
A lot of times, there's lakes, picturesque lakes there, held by earthen dams, and enough melt breaks that dam, and then all the water comes rushing
down valley at once. This, so far, the evidence shows was not a GLOTH event, other than maybe a sudden lake was created as that massive mountain
side and all that ice came down, blocking the river.
You know, and then filling up a lake behind it almost immediately, and then all of that water coming down like a tsunami there. But it just, you know -
- then the other thing I immediately thought of is there is a village high up in Switzerland, in the Alps. This picturesque village of a 1,500 people
has a very similar precarious rock and ice situation right above them.
And every day they have to look up and wonder, is this the day that thing goes? It's too early, like the expert said in the piece, to say this was
caused. You know, this is it. But when all of the glaciers around the world are melting rapidly, you can see the mass going down. It's just physics.
It's just physics.
GIOKOS: Yeah, Bill Weir, thank you so much. Good to speak to you. The man known as the Butcher of Bosnia has died. Ratko Mladic was a Bosnian Serb
General who led a massacre. He led the Siege of Sarajevo in the 1990 s. In 2017, a United Nations court convicted him for masterminding a campaign of
ethnic cleansing against Bosnia's non-Serbs.
The court found him guilty of charges including genocide as well as crimes against humanity. Mladic was 84-years-old and serving a life sentence at
the UN Detention Unit in The Hague. Joining us now by phone, we've got CNN's Chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour. Christiane, really
good to have you on with us.
You know, we've all seen your reporting of the war and some of the atrocities. And I wonder when you heard of his death, whether you believe
this closes an important chapter? And also, what this means for survivors as well as the victims of his genocidal acts?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT & ANCHOR: You know, Eleni my first thought was finally. My second thought was that he
died probably peacefully in his bed at the age of 83, 84, which was a luxury that he did not afford the tens of thousands of women, men, and
children who he was responsible for their mass murder in Bosnia during the 90s.
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Bosnia and the Balkan War there was the worst such massacres in Europe since World War II, and they were masterminded by Ratko Mladic, who was not
just some militia person who didn't know any better, but was a career serving officer, having been trained in the Yugoslav Army.
He knew better, and he was guided, and he was supported and armed by his patrons in Serbia, notably the President Slobodan Milosevic, and all them.
He became the leader, along the military leader of the Bosnians and Rump Little Statelet, which tried to cleave off from, you know, during the fight
for freedom by the Bosnians.
It was a determined effort of ethnic cleansing and genocide in order to get rid of, whether by chasing them out of their homes or by killing them, of
the Bosnian Muslims who made up the majority of Bosnia because they wanted the Serbs wanted their pure white Serbian Christian state. They wanted to
carve that off.
And I'm telling you that that program and that plan is still trying to be had by political means now by the Bosnian Serbs and even by some in Serbia.
So, what he did, particularly in the Massacre of Srebrenica in July 1995, was storm a UN safe area and basically round up 8,000 men and boys,
Muslims, march them off into the woodlands and essentially into their dead, into to their death.
They were hacked to death. They were shot to death. They were all put in mass graves. We interviewed survivors. We know what happened. We, the
press, CNN, and all the other press, were there to document in real time these crimes. And a lot of the documentation became, you know, became the
material for the International Criminal Tribunal at The Hague to hold people like Ratko Mladic, Radovan Karadzic, who was the political leader of
the Bosnian Serbs.
And indeed, years ago Slobodan Milosevic, who was also held accountable for his backing of this war. It was terrible because the West did nothing about
it except to try to provide humanitarian aid for many, many years. But they refused to intervene to stop a genocide in Europe, the first of its kind
since World War II, until the Massacre of Srebrenica.
That was one massacre too far, even for sort of unwilling democracies around the world. And they then decided that they would, led by the United
States, have a military operation to destroy the Bosnian Serb emplacements, military emplacements, not civilians, not villages, not individuals,
military hardware arrayed around Sarajevo to maintain a siege and elsewhere.
After that, the United States led a diplomatic effort, led to the Dayton Peace Accords, and they brought a peace, an uneasy peace, but it is a peace
that continues since 1995 to stop. And it's one of the last really important examples of American humanitarian intervention backed by military
force that ended a war and that brought a peace, and it was very, very important.
And the fact that he has died in prison peacefully, as I said, something he did not afford the victims, so many, so many victims, is a bit of a
bittersweet moment. But at least he was held accountable. He was judged. He was sentenced. You know -- and he -- you know, Sir Marissa will follow him
as the biggest chef in Europe in this country.
GIOKOS: Christiane Amanpour, thank you so very much. It was good to hear your thoughts, your insights, we appreciate it. We're going to a very short
break. "One World" will be right back.
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GIOKOS: Welcome back. The White House says there are no negotiations happening right now between the U.S. and Iran. Press Secretary Karoline
Leavitt says this will continue until President Trump feels Iran is ready to come to the table in a meaningful way. She says the U.S. continues to be
focused on Operation Economic Outcast, which she says is designed to destroy Iran's economy.
Firas Maksad is the Eurasia Group's Managing Director for the Middle East and North Africa. He joins us now live for a closer look at the situation.
Firas, really good to have you with us. You know, no talks according to Karoline Leavitt. They're focusing on economic sanctions against Iran.
Meanwhile, we know that Qatar is opening a door for negotiations with the PM currently being in Tehran. What do you make of the current lack of
diplomacy or some diplomacy at least happening from a regional perspective?
FIRAS MAKSAD, MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR MIDDLE EAST & NORTH AFRICA, EURASIA GROUP: Well, Eleni, there's a lack of diplomacy as far as direct U.S.
engagement is concerned, but there's no lack of diplomacy as far as America's regional partners are involved.
Today, it's the Qatari PM that is in Iran. The Omanis have also been especially active on the diplomatic front. This is not to speak of the
Pakistanis too, who more recently, just two days ago, were in Tehran. So, the channels remain open. Those countries in the region have a particular
interest in moving diplomacy forward.
Much of the actual dark fleet that is now passing through Hormuz with U.S. protection, more oil is coming out is actually passing through Omani waters
in that southern part of the Hormuz channel. So, the Omanis very careful here, not wanting and fearing reprisal from the Iranians, and therefore
engaging diplomatically.
The Qataris too, you named the prime minister today, being in Tehran, they have been able to export their LNG since the conflict started some five
months ago, and eager to keep the lines of communication open. But the point here is that the U.S. through this economic campaign round now that
they are waging, trying to strangle the Iranian economy.
The message from Washington is there is no sense of urgency that they could afford to wait this out, and that the pressure really is on the Iranians to
come to the table.
GIOKOS: Yeah. And what's interesting is and is whether everyone can be on board with applying pressure on Iran. This cannot be done without China as
well as Russia, and we know the CIA Director is in Russia having those conversations. How much you know -- we've always been talking about who's
going to buckle first, who can endure more pain? Are these economic sanctions going to have that effect?
MAKSAD: Well, first, let me say I do think that President Trump is correct in assessing that the economic option, the economic pressure tool is
probably more effective at this point in the conflict than resorting to kinetic and military means. His military options are not attractive at all.
But for the economic pressure to bear fruit, he has to be able to get some cooperation with the Chinese, the Russians, and other regional actors that
are the main trading partners for the Iranians. I think he's going to have a real hard time getting the Chinese to cooperate.
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Trump is looking at a summit with President Xi of China next month. It's unlikely that Treasury is going to be sanctioning Chinese entity in the
lead up to that summit. It's a similar situation with Russia. So really, key here is getting the regional countries to cooperate. The UAE has
already announced that it is severing all economic and commercial transactions with Iran. That is significant.
Turkey, Oman, Qatar, and Arab are also going to be crucial on all this. So, it has to be a full court press, and then the president needs to be patient
for that pressure to begin bearing fruits. And patience is not something that Donald Trump is known for.
GIOKOS: All right, Faras Maksad, really good to see you. Good to have you on the show. Much appreciates it. We're going to a short break. We'll be
back right after this. Stick with CNN.
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GIOKOS: If gaming is your thing, the biggest event in the industry right now is underway in Germany. More than 1,700 exhibitors are gathering in
Cologne for Gamescom, the world's largest video game trade fair. The event features hands-on demos, stage shows, and massive cosplay competitions.
Organizers say this year's biggest trends include the responsible use of artificial intelligence, the continued rise of indie games, and a growing
focus on how gaming can impact society. Gamescom runs through Saturday and is expected to draw hundreds of thousands of visitors from around the
world.
A climber rescued in Northern Georgia after becoming stranded while scaling Mount Yonah, he was stuck on a 20 by 20-inch ledge about 260 feet above the
ground. He was able to call 911 himself, and crews used a drone to try locate him. And they were finally able to help him to get down.
A puppy stuck in a drainage pipe. Crews used water to flush the puppy towards the end of the pipe before they were able to grab it. The puppy was
then taken back to the station to get cleaned up and rest before it was handed over to animal services. Look at that.
All right, but finally, before we go, the best-selling Japanese Artist famous for her Polka-Dot creations, has died at the age of 97.
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Yayoi Kusama was one of the world's most celebrated artists, with her work fetching nearly $200 million at auctions in the year 2023 alone. She had
little formal training and spent much of her childhood in a military factory sewing parachutes for Japan's Imperial Army.
But later in life she gained international recognition for her pumpkin sculptures, signature Polka-Dot artwork, and infinity mirror installations
that drew millions of visitors around the globe. Kusama also collaborated with French Fashion House Louis Vuitton. All right, stay with CNN, I have
more "One World" right after the short break.
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