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Latino Votes Could Swing Midterms In Democrats' Favor; Western Province Votes On Whether To Break From Canada; French Officials Consider Curfews After Violent Riots; Clashes Erupt In Italy As Crowds Protest High Cost Of Living; Protesters Take To The Streets In Multiple European Cities; Settlers Attack Journalist, European Diplomats In West Bank; Trump Endorses Netanyahu Days Before Israeli Elections; Kenyan Cult Leader Found Guilty Of Mass Child Murder; Musk Says He Will Give SpaceX Shares To U.S. Kids Amid Tech Scrutiny; Documentary "You Can See Everything" Scores Huge Debut; London Dungeon Hosts Mummy-Themed Immersive Experience. Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right, coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: -- if we don't win. This is the most important midterm in the history of our country.
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GOLODRYGA: Election day is almost upon us, and early voting is underway. CNN catches up with a group of voters who could make all the difference.
ASHER: Plus, breaking news just into CNN, Kenyan cult leader Paul MacKenzie has been found guilty on nearly 200 charges of child murder. Details on the
conviction and what comes next.
GOLODRYGA: And later, everyone is seeing everything. Documentaries smash getting people out of their living rooms and into movie theaters.
Well, with just 15 days to go until the U.S. midterms, the political winds seem to be shifting in favor of the Democrats. More pollings -- more polls
are pointing in their favor and telling us that their voters right now across America are struggling with the rising cost of living.
ASHER: Now, the President is going all in, taking his message on the road, mostly to states he carried in 2024 from Kansas to Florida. The President
hoping to fire up Republican voters before Election Day on November 3rd.
Texas is gearing up to be a battleground state with Democrats looking for their first statewide win in three decades. And there's one key demographic
that could be the deciding factor that reshapes Congress.
GOLODRYGA: In 2024, the Latino vote helped Trump clinch the presidency. Now, polls suggest the nation's 36 million Latino voters are shifting in
significant numbers.
CNN's Carolina Peguero joins us with more. So, Carolina, tell us exactly what these polls are suggesting about how Latinos could be voting. And what
are some of the bigger factors contributing to their decision in just 15 days' time?
CAROLINA PEGUERO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon. Yes, you spoke about the Latino voters. And we're in one of the states that has one of the
biggest populations of registered Latino voters here in South Florida. Just in Miami-Dade County, where I am, at least 61 percent of the voters are
Hispanic. And, as we can see, some are already filing in to vote, whether it's to drop off their early ballots or to go in person to vote.
And, of course, we've spoken to some of these voters about what are those topics that they're most interested that have impacted them and that they
want to see a change. And of those, we have heard of the economy, of high gas prices, as well as immigration. And they want to be able to have just
affordability in general and overall, especially for college students.
Now, the races that are very important here in District 28, where I'm currently at, is of the incumbent Republican Congressman Carlos Gimenez,
who is going against the Democrat Phil Ehr. And then just next door, District 27, of incumbent Republican Maria Elvira Salazar, who's going up
against the Democrat and ex-former news anchor Eliott Rodriguez. And, of course, the governor's race here in Florida of Byron Donalds, who is
supported by Donald Trump and the Republican Party, as well as David Jolly, who is running in the Democrat.
But I want you to hear some of the voters that we spoke to earlier this morning.
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VICTOR CRUZ, FLORIDA VOTER: The importance to be here is to be able to vote and let our politicians know that we have the voice. They hold their office
because we send them there.
MARIA IZGUERRA, FLORIDA VOTER: If you're an American citizen, that you need to vote, it's your duty and responsibility. And I'm so proud to be able to
do that.
PEGUERO: Yes.
IZGUERRA: So that's why I'm here.
PEGUERO: And tell me, what is it that you're hoping for in this midterm election, as far as just the topics that are close to home?
IZGUERRA: Well, close home to me is having a united America that we don't have now.
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PEGUERO: And early voting starts here, of course, kicking off on Monday, as well as in other states like Texas. And it will continue for the next two
weeks until November 3rd, where we would see those results of who they pick for these positions in Congress and also here at a local level in Miami-
Dade.
Back to you.
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GOLODRYGA: OK. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
ASHER: Thanks, Carolina.
All right, Canadians in the western province of Alberta are heading to the polls today. They're voting in a non-binding referendum over whether to
break from the rest of Canada. Now, polls show a majority of voters oppose the split. But many say this is an issue that simply is not going away.
GOLODRYGA: Alberta is oil rich, and the independence campaign is fueled by economic concerns. Some separatists say the federal government's
environmental policies have constrained the province's oil industry.
ASHER: CNN's Paula Newton is following all of this closely from New York, and joins us live now. So it's interesting because this is a referendum on
whether or not to actually hold a referendum. But what some Albertans are saying is that there's just too much power and focus concentrated in
Ottawa.
Obviously, as I mentioned, this is a very, very oil-rich region. But based on what I've seen, most Albertans are going to vote no in this. Just walk
us through what we know.
PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, it's not exactly a cliffhanger of a vote, Zain. You're right about that. I mean, I don't want to presuppose
exactly what the vote is going to show. But, again, as you said, we're not dealing with a Brexit situation here. Nothing is going to happen
immediately, but it does look like the separatists will not get what they want. They will not have a mandate to try and have another vote on
separation.
Having said that, what you said before, Zain, is really the key here. The fact that there is even a vote on this is what matters. Now, as an accident
of history, perhaps, Canada now has a prime minister, Prime Minister Mark Carney, who was raised in Alberta and was not shy about going to that
province and talking about all the benefits of Canada, even though there is some downside.
But many of our viewers are familiar with the separatist movement in Quebec, which is decades old. They just elected a separatist government
there in terms of the premier of that province. And this continues to be a topic of conversation in Canada.
Is this a federation you can keep together? How much power do you want Ottawa, the federal government, to have? And in Alberta, it isn't just
people that will vote against any idea of separation today. Many Albertans who will vote for Canada today in any measure still believe that the
federal government has too much power.
And, look, we have seen these movements right across the world, and it is becoming a feature, not a bug, of trying to really lead any of these
countries at this point in time. So, remember, today there are 10 questions. Only the last one is really to deal with any kind of separation.
The other questions are also significant. They deal with how much power Alberta wants to have in things like immigration, that normally is a power
that is retained by Ottawa and Ottawa alone. I mean, look, there's been a lot of controversy in terms of how close the separatist movement in Alberta
is to the Trump administration.
There have been some investigations. And certainly politicians in the United States have made comments about, sure, why not? We would welcome an
independent Alberta.
Look, again, it is for the voters of Alberta to decide. We will not presuppose what goes on. I just mean to state that this issue is not going
away, even though the vote looks like it will end up in Canada's favor.
ASHER: Paula Newton live for us there, thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Well, over the last week, tens of thousands of Europeans have taken to the streets to express their outrage at the affordability crisis.
France has seen some of its worst rioting in years, and now officials are considering curfews.
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GOLODRYGA: A 143-year-old town hall was set ablaze south of France.
ASHER: The destruction follows what had been largely peaceful protests. The French prime minister is now asking for certain cities to impose partial
curfews. This after authorities say hundreds of businesses were vandalized by masked looters.
Here's how one store owner vented his frustration.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): Look, it's a shame. Damn, it's a shame. It's not possible. There's art and manners to make demands, make
demands with class, but not like this. Damn it.
What did we do to you? We're family, man. It's our damn grocery store. How are we going to survive now? I'm running behind insurance. That's
unfortunate, damn it. Is it me that you're bringing your demands?
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ASHER: France is not the only place facing violent riots right now. Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has called for a government meeting in Rome
to discuss a response to recent clashes in Milan.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, Stefano Pozzebon is joining us now to further discuss these developments live from Rome. We've spent so much time focusing on the
unrest there and the protests in France. Just talk to us about what is taking place in Italy and what some of our viewers around the world may
have missed thus far.
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STEFANO POZZEBON, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, Brianna, it's a very similar situation to the one we're seeing in France. There is general discontent
over the cost of living crisis, in particular at the government of Giorgia Meloni, which is now the longest sitting single government in the history
of the Republic here.
But, of course, with the prices at the pump brought up by the price of the crude oil due to the war in Iran and the blockade of the Straits of Hormuz,
those costs are now hitting Italians at the wallet. And this is why over the last 10 days or so, we've seen really several protests gathering
together.
And, in fact, for example, even here in Rome on Saturday there was a rally of more than 100,000 people by worker unions, but also the opposition
parties and the student unions, all asking, protesting the cost of living crisis and the policies that Meloni is bringing forward.
At the same time, similar to what we're seeing in France, the events in Milan identify two particular things. The first one is that these riots are
taking place outside of these wider spread protests. There is a wider protest movement that is happening peacefully across the peninsula, and
then instead there are pockets of explosive anger that is being brought in display. And this explosive anger often erupts into open violence, which is
what we have seen on Saturday, and even more surprising on Sunday, because it was completely not organized.
The second thing, or leaderless. The second thing I was saying is just how young some of these protesters are. We've spoken with the police. They told
us that about 270 people have been brought in for questioning following the riots yesterday in Milan, and 220 of those were minors.
And so we spoke with experts trying to understand where is this rage, this anger coming from. And this is, for example, one interesting bit that a
professor at the University of Milan told me.
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MATTEO LANCINI, PSYCHOLOGIST AND PSYCHOTHERAPIST (through translation): We live in a society that has proposed patterns where attacking others,
destroying and killing is normal, and then it's shocked when young people do it. But we cannot decontextualize this from the violence that they have
absorbed from adults in this mass media society of social media. I repeat, this does not justify anything from the point of view of responsibility.
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POZZEBON: Zain and Brianna, what is happening is similar to France, and so the debate is also happening in the same way. How can the protest movement
give, like, push those claims that they have been trying to push about the cost of living without condoning the violence? We have seen universal
condemnation from, for example, the mayor of Milan, Beppe Sala, who this morning was out in the streets next to the Duomo and speaking with the
shopkeepers who had significant damage by what happened yesterday.
And yet also we -- they -- we're waiting to hear from the government what response they intend to bring to those protests. Zain, Brianna?
ASHER: All right, Stefano Pozzebon live for us, thank you for that.
The U.S. is calling on Israel to do more to crack down on settler violence in the occupied West Bank as the Israeli government sends mixed messages.
In a rare move that comes amid an avalanche of international criticism, Israeli police today said that they arrested at least 10 people following
attacks on a journalist and an entourage of European diplomats.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. A reminder that on Friday, Washington Post photojournalist Heidi Levine was beaten by a crowd of settlers and later hospitalized. She
was traveling with a group of Palestinians at the start of the olive harvest. One day later, settlers attacked a convoy of European diplomats
visiting a Palestinian Christian town. An Israeli human rights group says the violence is hitting record levels.
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ZIV STAHI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, YESH DIN: This season is not even at the middle of the season and violence is already exceeding new records. In
total, in 20 days of harvest, we, in Yesh Din, documented 503 -- and 538 sorry, violent incidents of settler violence attacking Palestinians. We are
talking about an average of 27 attacks each day.
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GOLODRYGA: That all comes amid the backdrop of Israeli elections, now just one week away and what appears to be the Prime Minister's attempt to appeal
to his right-wing base. Despite videos and photos, Benjamin Netanyahu has tried to cast doubt on the recent high-profile attacks, calling them
alleged.
CNN's Jeremy Diamond is joining us from Jerusalem with the latest. And Jeremy, it really is interesting to see how two high-level officials, the
Prime Minister and the President of Israel, mostly a ceremonial role, but he will play his most significant role in the aftermath of these elections
just next week, how they responded to these events, specifically the attack on Heidi Levine.
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The President reaching out, speaking to Levine, expressing his condolences and also condemning the attack. The Prime Minister taking a different
approach. Just talk about how this is all impacting those elections, Jeremy.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right, Bianna. We saw the Israeli President, Isaac Herzog, speaking with Heidi Levine by
phone, condemning in no uncertain terms the violent settler attack that she faced, whereas the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, his office
released a statement referring to the attack, which was filmed on video as a, quote, "alleged attack," saying that the circumstances needed to be
investigated and that people shouldn't be jumping to circumstances.
He issued a very similar statement after a group of European diplomats were also attacked by Israeli settlers. Part of that was also captured on video.
And once again, the Prime Minister cast doubt.
Now, what we have seen, however, has been somewhat of a response from Israel's security apparatus. At least eight individuals were arrested on
suspicion of participation in the attacks on both Heidi Levine as well as the European diplomats.
So certainly an effort by Israel's security authorities to show that they are on top of this, even though we know that for months, certainly, there
have been attacks on Palestinians and other journalists before, and the Israeli military has repeatedly failed to rein in the issue of settler
violence that continues to plague and is indeed increasing in the West Bank amid this olive harvest season. And it certainly is playing into the
election campaign.
In terms of drawing this contrast that we are seeing between Netanyahu on the one hand and the leaders of the kind of change bloc as it's known here,
the opposition candidates such as Gadi Eisenkot, a former Israeli military chief of staff who served in the wartime government, unity government, in
the wake of the October 7th attacks, he has also, like the Israeli President, unequivocally condemned this issue of settler violence and said
that it falls at the feet of this current Israeli government.
Of course, over the weekend, we also saw President Trump jumping into the fray of these Israeli elections. There had been a sense for some time now
that perhaps President Trump, despite the clear behind-the-scenes entreaties of the Israeli prime minister to get an endorsement, that
perhaps President Trump wouldn't jump into this election. But over the weekend, he did, issuing his full and full-throated endorsement of the
Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, you know, a capstone to a relationship that has certainly been rocky at times.
Worth noting, of course, that this has certainly given a shot in the arm to Prime Minister Netanyahu's campaign for at least a couple of days. Whether
it will have a big impact on the elections next week remains to be seen. President Trump certainly remains broadly a very popular figure in Israel,
but his popularity has fallen amid the war with Iran as President Trump kind of sought to end that war prematurely in the eyes of many Israelis, as
well as forcing a ceasefire in Lebanon.
So, you know, we'll see what kind of impact that truly has on the election next week, but certainly the latest instance of the U.S. President jumping
into a foreign election in a way that his predecessors probably would not.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, and it's made us go back and rewatch our interview with Israel's ambassador, Ambassador Leiter, to the U.S. on Friday. We asked
about Trump stating that he does not trust any leader, including Prime Minister Netanyahu. He dismissed that as what you just said, that no
American president has ever endorsed an Israeli candidate, but we don't know what's happening behind closed doors. And then just two days later
comes this first of its kind endorsement.
Jeremy, thank you. Appreciate it.
ASHER: All right, breaking news into CNN, a verdict has just been delivered in the murder trial of Kenyan cult leader Paul Mackenzie after hundreds of
bodies were found burned -- buried, rather, excuse me, in a forest.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, Mackenzie has been found guilty on all charges in the murder of 191 people, all but one of them children. The court found that
the cult had forced the children to starve to death. Mackenzie was convicted along with 29 of his followers.
ASHER: CNN's Larry Madowo joins us live now from Nairobi. I mean, this case is haunting. You know, this is a cult leader who somehow managed to
persuade parents to starve their young children. I mean, it is really, really difficult to digest this particular case. He's been found guilty.
Just walk us through what's been the reaction there in Nairobi to this.
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LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This case is a horrific one. A former taxi driver who declared himself a preacher and launched a TV station that
reached people across the country and on social media and YouTube as well, convincing hundreds of parents to starve their children to death. And the
Kenyan court now deciding that it was, in fact, a cult and that he had a hierarchy of death, children first, and then teens, and then women, and
then, finally, men.
And he is charged with the murder of 191 people, all but one children. But in the end, they found more than 400 bodies in this vast forest in
Shakahola, that's near the Kenyan coast. This is the moment after eight hours where the verdict came down.
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JUSTICE DIANA KAVEDZA-MOCHACHE, MOMBASA HIGH COURT: Final verdict, I am satisfied that the prosecution has proved the case against all the 29
accused persons for the murder of 190 children and one adult, contrary to Section 2 or 3 of the penal code. I reject the defense by the accused
persons that the victims, who were all below the age of 16, 16 years voluntarily fasted to death. Paul Nthenge Mackenzie, convicted on all 191
counts of murder.
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MADOWO: That is the leader of that starvation cult, but he -- his other 29 co-accused who are leaders of this cult were also found guilty under Kenyan
law. They can be sentenced to life in prison. They could be sentenced to death, though Kenya has not carried out an execution since 1987, or they
could serve long prison sentences.
The judge recounted gruesome details of how these children were made to starve, and some siblings were forced to celebrate the killings of their
siblings. And the judge went into great detail about why this has the hallmarks of crimes against humanity, talking about the scale of the
deaths, the duration, the targeting of the civilian population, the organization of this cult.
And some of these children who were not starved to death were suffocated. They were strangled. They were beaten with blunt objects. And some
witnesses in this long trial said that the pastor told them, Paul Mackenzie, that they would be going to heaven with kicks and blows if
necessary.
But they had to do that, and they were buried in shallow graves, which sped up this pace of decomposition so that they could not be found. And they had
enforcers in the community within that cult who made sure that police, the media, that no one in the neighboring community knew what was happening.
And that is why, in the end, more than 400 bodies found.
There are families still missing, loved ones. And one of the most heartbreaking, in one family, they lost six children, all under the age of
17.
ASHER: I mean, Larry, it is incredibly painful just to even listen to you talk about this story, let alone what family members who lost loved ones
are going through today. Larry, thank you so much for breaking this really important case down for us. It is a case that will not be forgotten in
Kenya, certainly.
Larry Madowo, we appreciate it. Thank you.
We'll be right back with more after the break.
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GOLODRYGA: All right, take a look at all of this water right now on your screen. Torrential rain bringing dangerous flooding to the Valencia region
of Spain. In some places, areas more than 60 centimeters of rain has fallen since Saturday. Most of it on Sunday and early Monday.
ASHER: Yes, Spain's weather service says it's the heaviest rainfall to hit the region since 1987. And there could be more rain in the next day or so
in a region where memories are still fresh of the recent floods of 2024 that killed more than 200 people.
Elon Musk, the richest person in the world, is now promising to give every child in America a share of SpaceX.
ASHER: Musk's announcement was thin on details. No word yet on how the shares would be distributed or who could be eligible. At last check, SpaceX
was trading at about $150 a share.
GOLODRYGA: So let's get some perspective on this announcement. We're joined by CNN Business Senior Reporter David Goldman. So David, we still have
unanswered questions. No details were further provided. How lucrative could this be for Americans? And what questions do you as a business journalist
have right now?
DAVID GOLDMAN, CNN BUSINESS SENIOR REPORTER: Yes, lots of questions, not a ton of answers. I mean, it is actually this tweet from Elon Musk about the
amount of shares that are going to go to U.S. children was in response to another announcement from Anthropic, a competitor to Elon Musk's XAI, which
said that it was going to donate around 5 percent of the company's shares to some kind of public benefit fund. And then it would add another 2
percent every time that the company grows 50 percent.
And so we don't know much more than that. Just, you know, this is for the public benefit and we'll figure out a way to deal with that. So Elon Musk
says, well, I have an idea. Why don't instead we just directly distribute money to people, to actual children?
And so that's how he came up with his idea where everyone gets a share, right? So it's about $48 billion if you're Anthropic for this public
benefit fund. It's around $10 billion if you're Elon Musk for all 73 million children. But then beyond that, what is this for and how do we know
that it's working, right?
We know that people really don't like AI. That's for that's for certain. This is a big issue in the midterms, actually. And so maybe giving out some
of that money could help to make people feel better about the AI that they really don't like. But beyond that, we just don't know why they're doing
this and then for what -- to what end. And, you know, economically, if you give out a lot of money, well, I want to know what they're going to be
doing with that money.
ASHER: David, I literally thought your hit was going to end 10 seconds in when you said and we don't know much more than that. Back to you, Zain.
GOLDMAN: That's it. We could just kind of --
ASHER: Back to you.
GOLDMAN: -- scratch our chins for a little while.
GOLODRYGA: I mean, it's just --
ASHER: You kept going. You really -- you did a good job.
GOLODRYGA: You just seem to be evolving as we go. And Elon is known for that. Let's see if reporters like you hold him to account. And if this was
something he just did as a gimmick or on a whim --
ASHER: On a whim, yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- then we'll hold him to account there. If not, perhaps there is something here that can be beneficial --
GOLDMAN: We'll see.
GOLODRYGA: -- to America's children. We'll see.
All right, David, thank you.
ASHER: Thank you.
GOLDMAN: Thank you.
ASHER: OK. Bye.
All right. President Trump signs an executive order today on an initiative aimed at boosting women's health. It closely resembles a similar effort by
Dr. Jill Biden that was scrapped last year by the Trump administration.
GOLODRYGA: The order aims to create a women's division at the National Institutes of Health, focusing on doing more research on women's issues and
translating it into treatments and potential cures. We'll also establish a task force. First Lady Melania Trump is behind the effort.
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MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY: Today, we establish a new ambition, transforming hardship and pain into scientific discovery, effective treatments and
lasting cures. We are women. We are resilient, capable and deserving of lives defined not by the burdens we carry, but by the possibilities before
us. Our health should never be limit in the fullness of our lives.
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ASHER: The new order formally rescinds the Biden-era order on women's health research that was championed by the former first lady.
GOLODRYGA: All right, still to come on "One World."
ASHER: A24 has turned a secretive film about disgraced Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes into one of biggest documentary hits in decades. What's
the secret to the studio's success? We'll take a closer look.
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GOLODRYGA: What is the biggest box office opening for a documentary in over two decades? "You Can See Everything" opened on fewer than 900 screens and
made more than $15 million in ticket sales.
Yes, the film follows Elizabeth Holmes, the disgraced founder of medical testing company Theranos in her final weeks before going to prison back in
2023. Holmes was convicted of wire fraud and conspiracy to defraud investors.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You've never been suspicious that she's ever lied to you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, never.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I still have this weird feeling that there's some things that I'm not seeing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's because I don't have anything to hide.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know what you're capable of.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, you don't.
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GOLODRYGA: All right, time now for The Exchange. We're joined by Nick Schager, entertainment critic for The Daily Beast. Nick, good to have you
on.
Everyone is talking about this film. You call it the film of the year and put it alongside some of the best documentaries ever made. I know Zain
wants to get into the power of A24 here, but just in terms of this film, without spoiling anything, what makes it such a hit?
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NICK SCHAGER, ENTERTAINMENT CRITIC, THE DAILY BEAST: Well, I agree we have to discuss this without spoiling it because one of the big hooks for the
film is its mysteries and the things that people don't know about it. And I think a lot of what has contributed to this success has been the way A24
has handled the film.
We didn't even know it existed a month and a half ago. And it's screened a couple of times at film festivals. I was fortunate enough to see it at one
of them. And there's a real sort of a puzzle box aspect to the documentary that I think once people learned it was out there, people learned it was
from A24, which is this really catchy brand.
And that there were these real mysteries about the film, not just with regards to Elizabeth Holmes, but as to what Nathan Fielder, who himself is
a cult figure, you know, was doing with the film. All of that sort of comes together and you get with really glowing reviews the phenomenon that we
have now.
ASHER: And Bianna is right, I do want to get into A24 because I think the success of this brand, I mean, is fascinating. They're hugely compelling.
You know, they're behind "Moonlight." Obviously, you can see everything, but everything, everywhere, all at once. Of course, "Backrooms," you know.
And the studios in Hollywood learned a lot of lessons from "Backrooms" because it cost about $10 million to make, but yet raked in $400 million at
the box office. They have a system, A24, not just in terms of the types of movies that they create -- curate and create, I guess, but that the movies
they release feel like cultural events. And they also are very skilled when it comes to marketing.
I mean, you know, you can see everything. I remember watching the trailer to this on Instagram and being just like, I had to replay it like eight
times because I'd never seen anything like it. Like, I was just so pulled in. But explain the talent and the magical touch that A24 has as a brand.
SCHAGER: Well, I agree that A24 is really, you know, the place in Hollywood that has got its finger on the pulse, not just of cinema culture, but
certainly of youth cinema culture. And a lot of that has been curating films that are a little off the beaten path, a little bit more daring, and
that have people you know in them, but use them in unique ways, and also have surprises.
One of the brand's biggest hits this year was the drama with Robert Pattinson and Zendaya. And that too was predicated on the sort of mystery
of the premise. And this works likewise, except here, we really have someone who is very, you know, sort of very much a cult popular figure in
Nathan Fielder, alongside a really, really famous person in Elizabeth Holmes.
And when you get those things together, and then you make a film that is so uniquely structured and has so many things to sort of unfold, it, you know,
it, I think it motivates, especially young audiences, who want to be a part of the conversation. And that's where A24 is really good.
They make people want to feel like they have to see these films to be a part of the cultural conversation at the moment. And certainly, that's
what's happened here, because the fact that there were 2,000 plus sellouts at only 855 theaters on a weekend, where there are other big films, and
this is a three-hour documentary, is really a testament to the fact that, you know, they know exactly what they're doing.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, and more than 70 percent of the opening audience, we should know, just under the age of 35. But what's also fascinating is that
Elizabeth Holmes' story has already been told extensively. So what do Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim get out of her that we don't already
know?
SCHAGER: Well, one of the big hooks is that he has such access to her. I mean, the two of them are really with Elizabeth Holmes for the last 34 days
of her, you know, of the time before she goes to prison. And it's a really intimate portrait of her.
And so, there's a constant sense during those passages in the films of wanting to sort of find out what they're going to learn about her. What
truth are they going to reveal here that sort of not only makes this film - - you know, justifies this film's existence, but tells us something we don't already know about her. And I think that push-pull is really the sort
of heart of certainly the first part of the film.
I don't want to reveal what they learn about her, because I think one of the things about the film is it reveals things and yet doesn't. The title
of the film, "You Can See Everything," means more than you can see everything. Because the truth is, I think people are coming out of this
film having big debates about who she is, what she knew, what she was doing, the relationship she had, what Theranos was really, you know,
predicated on accomplishing. And I think those are open to interpretation, which is one of the reasons the film continues to be the water cooler event
of the fall.
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GOLODRYGA: You masterfully handled that without revealing anything. I know it's hard.
ASHER: You did a good job, Nick.
GOLODRYGA: Very professional of you, Nick. I definitely want to see this. We will --
ASHER: Yes, of course.
GOLODRYGA: -- have a lot to talk about once both of us do.
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: Nick Schager, thank you.
ASHER: Thank you, Nick.
SCHAGER: Thank you.
ASHER: All right, the London Dungeon is hosting an immersive Victorian-era experience about how an Egyptian mummy brought deadly ruin to the lives of
four English travelers.
GOLODRYGA: And it's based on a true story. CNN's Salma Abdelaziz takes us on a tour of "The Curse of the Mummy" show.
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SALMA ABDELAZIZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT ((voice-over): As Halloween approaches, Egyptian mummies will be rising up in London. The tourist landmark, the
London Dungeon, is running an Egyptian-themed performance where mummies are brought to life by live actors. During the show, "The Curse of the Mummy,"
audiences will be fully immersed as mummies creep up behind them as they walk through dark sets.
CIARAN COCHLAN, ACTOR: To scare the general public, you need to use a lot of physicality, a lot of timing, feeling the space for the audience,
feeling the energy in the air, which sounds a bit mystical. But once you have a lot of experience scaring guests, you can sense when tension's quite
high in the room.
ABDELAZIZ (voice-over): The London Dungeon along the River Thames is known for its dark, immersive shows. The actors at the venue have previously
portrayed characters like Jack the Ripper and Sweeney Todd. Similar to the attraction's multi-show lineup, the director of the performance says the
mummy-themed act is in line with British history.
RICHARD QUINCEY, DIRECTOR: Victorian times when they acquired it, and the idea that Victorians were so fascinated with mummies that they were eating
them because they believed that they had this, you know, magical cure to their ailments. But then the curses that were assigned to the mummy, even
the unlucky mummy itself at one point, was believed to be the reason the Titanic sank. So there's so many little bits in this story that we could
really pull on.
ABDELAZIZ (voice-over): The show will run through November 1st.
Salma Abdelaziz, CNN, London.
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GOLODRYGA: All right, that does it for "One World" today. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. "African Voices" is up next, and Bianna's going to be back in about 15 minutes with our report (ph) that she's hosting. Don't
go away.
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