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Attack At West Bank Checkpoint Days Before Israeli Election; Jordanian Security Agency: At Least Seven Killed In Church Shooting; Cook Political Report Moves 19 races Towards Democrats; Nigerians Call On Government To Do More Amid Fears Of Spread; Brazil To Choose Next President in Sunday's Runoff Election; Microsoft A.I. CEO: A.I. Will Ultimately Need Regulation; Aired 12-1p ET
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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
And we do begin in Israel, which has begun evicting residents from their homes and demolishing buildings in the West Bank city of Hebron.
ASHER: Yes, the move comes hours after two Palestinian gunmen opened fire at an Israeli military checkpoint, killing two Israeli soldiers.
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GOLODRYGA: Three other soldiers were wounded during a firefight between the gunmen and Israeli forces that lasted some 20 minutes.
The IDF says that it will carry out arrests of suspects and increase intelligence operations in Hebron and impose a full siege on the city.
ASHER: As Israel begins demolitions, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is vowing to destroy what he calls terrorist strongholds in Hebron and
Palestinian refugee camps elsewhere. He says Israeli forces will go house to house, remove weapons found there and destroy infrastructure too.
GOLODRYGA: The attack comes just four days before Israel holds its first election since the October 7th attacks, and at a time when Israeli settler
violence against Palestinians in the West Bank has surged hitting record levels.
CNN's Oren Liebermann has more.
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OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN JERUSALEM BUREAU CHIEF: It's only four days now here and -- and the final round of polls will actually come out in just a couple
of hours here by law. It's unlikely that this, so late in the game, affects any voters and the decisions they will make on Tuesday. A lot of that is
already set. Repeated polls have suggested there are only -- there's only a very small percentage of -- of Israelis that aren't sure how they will vote
here.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has, for years, tried to portray himself as Israel's Mr. Security. He has repeatedly avoided taking any sort of
response for the myriad failures that led to -- that led up to and were ahead of the October 7th Hamas-led terror attack on Israel. And here he is,
back once again trying to portray himself as Mr. Security. Here is what he had to say when he visited the scene of the shooting attack near the city
of Hebron earlier today.
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER (through translator): We warned a few weeks ago about attempts by our enemies to harm us, our citizens, and
our soldiers ahead of the elections. That is what they tried to do here. Israel Defense Forces, soldiers blocked this with their bodies and were
also wounded. The soldiers not only stopped the terrorists, but also charged heroically and eliminated them.
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LIEBERMANN: In this case, Israel is moving very quickly. We have seen limited scale demolitions carried out after an attack, normally targeting
the attackers' family and the gunman's family.
In this case, Israel has made clear that they're going after an entire neighborhood that they'll evacuate that neighborhood and then destroy
anything that they classify as terrorist infrastructure. And we saw that start very, very quickly. In fact, within just a matter of hours of the
shooting attack itself focusing on the neighborhood in Hebron where the attackers came from and to where they went.
And one of the shocking things about the shooting attack itself is how long it lasted. We have seen these before. Normally, they're over in a very
short period of time. But first responders at the -- at the scene, the security forces that responded there said that the shooting attack, the
firefight between the two Palestinian gunmen and Israeli security forces lasted upwards of 20 minutes, and that is an incredibly long period of time
here.
Again, Israel now moving very quickly in the wake of the attack to evacuate that neighborhood. We have seen videos where Israeli forces shouted at
Palestinian residents that they have five minutes to evacuate and already the demolitions have started.
Israel has said, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said, that they will replicate the operations they carried out in West Bank refugee camps.
Those displaced thousands as entire neighborhoods were evacuated and homes were destroyed here.
But this appears to be an effort by Netanyahu to try to shore up his security standing with just days to go until the elections.
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ASHER: All right. I want to turn now to a horrific mass shooting at a church in Jordan. The public security agency now says at least seven people
have been killed. Multiple gunmen reportedly opened fire in Karak province. Witnesses say dozens of people were attending a funeral inside the church
when it happened.
GOLODRYGA: Right now, officials are pursuing the unidentified gunmen. Shootings like this are incredibly rare in Jordan.
ASHER: Let's discuss all of this with Jomana Karadsheh. Jomana, this is a - - this is a -- a surprise. I mean, as Bianna was just saying, shootings like this are rare in Jordan. Christians are a minority, but religious sort
of coexistence is one of the things that really makes Jordan shine, quite frankly. Just walk us through what we know about what happened here.
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JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, Zain, we're hearing from officials now describing this as an unprecedented terrorist attack on the
Christian population in Jordan.
But I have to also say, you know, speaking with people and following the coverage in Jordanian media, this is very much not only being treated as an
attack on Christians, it is very much seen as an attack on all Jordanians, the kind of solidarity that you are seeing and the outpouring of support
for the Christian population has been, you know, very evident in the past few hours.
We've also heard just now that King Abdullah has traveled to southern Jordan. He is in the town where the attack took place.
As we understand from officials, how this unfolded was just after 2:00 P.M. local time, as people had gathered at this Greek Orthodox church in the
town of Hamoud in southern Jordan. This is a predominantly Christian town.
At least three gunmen, from what we see in the CCTV video from outside the church. They got out of a vehicle and began opening fire on people who had
gathered outside the church.
And as you mentioned, the latest casualty figures we're getting, at least seven people were killed and 27 others were injured. And after that, those
gunmen fled. There is a massive security operation underway as the authorities are hunting down these assailants.
Now, I spoke with a -- an eyewitness, a survivor, a woman who was inside the church as this attack unfolded, and she's describing it as a massacre,
saying that she can't believe that she got out of there alive. She said that the gunfire went on for several minutes. It happened in the courtyard
of the church. And she says she could hear these gunmen screaming, "Allahu Akbar," God is great, as they were opening fire on people and gunning them
down in the church courtyard.
And inside, she said, it was a scene of panic and horror, as you can imagine. People were running, hiding, calling 911. She herself, she says,
with others, was hiding behind the altar in the church as they were dialing 911 and waiting for help.
And, you know, we've heard from Jordanian authorities, Zain, in the past couple of hours saying that they are going to pursue these gunmen. King
Abdullah, in a post on X, vowing the harshest retaliation, he says, for this terrorist attack.
ASHER: Jomana Karadsheh, thank you for that.
GOLODRYGA: Well, one person has been killed and at least four others injured in a drive-by shooting in France. The gunman opened fire from a car
at a gas station in a town west of Paris. A 12-year-old girl is among the injured, according to the local mayor.
Police have arrested a suspect. And in a post on X, President Emmanuel Macron described deep emotion over the shooting.
ASHER: The shooting comes at a particularly tense moment in France as the country braces for another weekend of protest. Fears over potential unrest
have prompted some of the capital's best known sites to close this coming Saturday, and that includes the Louvre as well.
GOLODRYGA: Well, control of the U.S. Congress is on the line, and with just 11 days to go, some races are taking an ugly turn.
ASHER: Like this one in Ohio, where just moments ago, President Trump was pressed on his decision to vocally back Republican gubernatorial candidate
Vivek Ramaswamy's ad featuring the mother of her opponent calling her daughter a liar.
Amy Acton has been estranged from her mother since she was 12 after her stepfather was actually arrested for raping her. Here's what Trump had to
say.
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DONALD TRUMP, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: It's a mother speaking badly against Amy Acton. And to me, it's very easy, the mother --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But they have in -- they have in trouble --
TRUMP: I don't care. So, if it were my mother speaking badly about me, you'd be making it the number one story on the news, you know that.
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GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, one major issue could spell trouble for Trump and the Republican Party. Gas prices are surging due to the war in Iran. Michigan
drivers were slapped with a 33 cent increase in just two days, bringing a gallon of gas to $4.77 cents.
ASHER: Yes, according to CNN polling, twice as many men, under the age of 30, now say they're more likely to vote for a Democratic candidate. A sharp
swing from nearly even split in 2024.
GOLODRYGA: And this as new Cook Political Report predicts a pickup of 12 to 22 Democratic seats. Democratic House Minority Leader says a path to
victory is in sight, but knows that the fight is far from over. Listen.
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REP. HAKEEM JEFFRIES (D-NY): Donald Trump and MAGA extremists are on the run because they have failed. They've broken every promise that they've
made to the American people. Life has not gotten more affordable. Life is far too expensive. Trump policies, like the tariffs, have increased costs
on everyday Americans by thousands of dollars per year, but we take nothing for granted. We're going to work hard to turn out every vote.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN chief Washington correspondent, our friend, Jake Tapper, is here with more. Jake, thanks so much for taking the time to join us today.
So, as noted, the Cook Political Report just moved 19 House races towards the Democrat. It comes at a time when oil just hit $115 a barrel. So, are
Republicans facing what the president even himself describes as midterm backlash that is typical for the incumbent party?
Or is something deeper happening? Is there a deeper rejection of the president's policies, specifically the impact of the war in Iran on
American consumers?
JAKE TAPPER, CNN CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: It's deeper than just normal midterm blues. They're obviously, as you just noted, higher prices,
partly because of the tariffs, which are not popular, partly because of the war in Iran that's not popular.
I don't know in recent history of a president that has gone into the midterms with such low approval ratings. I think you have to go back to
Harry Truman to find somebody as unpopular as President Trump is right now.
And about three quarters of the American people think that the country is on the wrong track. So, the numbers to keep pay attention to are the
president's popularity or unpopularity, the consumer confidence, consumer price index, and right track, wrong track. And those are all disastrous for
the president.
And then, of course, you have this curious decision to double down on that Vivek Ramaswamy ad in which Ramaswamy, Trump, and Vice President Vance
effectively are siding with child predators against a victim of child rape and against Ohio law enforcement.
Because remember, the stepdad, as you noted, was arrested for this and then became a fugitive of justice. And -- and the mom stuck with him and left
and abandoned her daughter and -- and Amy's -- Amy Acton's brother.
So, I've never seen a closing argument quite like this one of standing with child predators effectively, but -- but that is how this race and this --
these midterms are ending.
ASHER: Yes. I mean, it's interesting. It will be interesting, rather, to see how Vivek Ramaswamy's ad is going to play out among independents in
Ohio and -- and women as well. We'll see.
But, Jake, to your last point about Donald Trump being historically unpopular, what's interesting that when voters are polled, it's not as
though they believe that Democrats have all the answers either.
And so if those who are supporting --
TAPPER: That's right.
ASHER: Yes. So, if those who are supporting Democrats are much more motivated by their opposition to Republicans than their actual enthusiasm
for Democrats, then what sort of problems does that present for Democrats when they do come into power, Jake?
TAPPER: Well, it -- it presents a -- a governing challenge, no doubt, one that's going to be exacerbated by the fact that there's going to be this
tension between the far-left DSA Democrats and the more moderate centrist Democrats, but I'm sure Hakeem Jeffries would love to have that as a
problem.
There is what Charlie Cook of the Cook Political Report referred to as a Republican undertow in this wave, which is what you just noted, that
Democrats are not popular either. President Trump and the Republican Party are -- are the ruling party right now, and therefore, they probably will be
punished by voters.
But there is a -- there is an enthusiasm to vote for Democrats that we're seeing, but there's not a lot of enthusiasm for the Democratic Party writ
large. And in fact, if I could just note, previous midterm elections in which Nancy Pelosi was the chief Democrat, I'm thinking about 2006 and
2018, I -- just having covered those races, there was much more unanimity, much more policy agenda being presented to the American people. These are
the things we are standing for. The six in '06, I remember.
And I don't hear those agenda items. And I have not really been able to get from Democratic guests on my show an idea of what they are standing for
other than against Trump and against high prices.
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But I don't know if they're going to be pushing a minimum wage increase. I don't know what they're going to do about the tariffs or the war, since
those are largely in the wheelhouse of -- of whoever's in the executive branch, so that is a mitigating factor in all of this.
GOLODRYGA: Jake, you mentioned past midterms and elections that you've covered. I checked with our good friend, the internet, and from what I've
been able to glean, this would be your eighth midterm election as a journalist.
So, if I'm wrong, blame --
TAPPER: Yes. 2002 was my first. 2002 was my first. So, I'm not good at math.
GOLODRYGA: I think this went back to '98. I think this went back to '98. So, I don't -- I don't know, maybe you were print at the time, but just
aging you.
TAPPER: I was print. I was not a national reporter.
GOLODRYGA: OK.
TAPPER: I'm old enough. I'm old enough. You don't need to add it. 2002 was my first midterm.
GOLODRYGA: You were -- you were a teenager. Just doing extra coverage outside of school.
Anyway, I guess the question here is what makes this one different from previous midterms that you've covered?
And I ask it because The New York Times/Siena" poll found that nearly three quarters of voters trust that the election results will be accurate, yet,
half of Republicans, they worry that Republicans will try to overturn them illegally. Is this a concern?
TAPPER: Half of Democrats are going to -- are worried --
GOLODRYGA: Yet, half worried that -- yet half worried that Republicans could turn them or try to overturn them illegally. Do you recall ever
seeing this as a factor for voters going in to vote?
TAPPER: No, but -- no, but I don't. But this is the first election in which President Trump is in the White House since January 6, 2021, when he and
his supporters tried to overturn the results of the election. So, it is not unfounded or conspiratorial for people out there to worry.
And in fact, President Trump has been signaling for quite some time that they are going to do everything they can to challenge the elections in
various ways. Right now, they're filing legal briefs to -- to notify the Alaska Board of Elections that because Senator Dan Sullivan from Alaska,
Republican, is running for reelection and somebody else named Dan Sullivan is also on the ballot, the Trump White House, the Trump Justice Department
is -- is warning, we might challenge the results if Dan Sullivan, the incumbent senator, doesn't win.
But beyond that, there are just questions about all this nonsense, all this disproven nonsense about elections being stolen and voter fraud on such
widespread scales that it's changing elections.
And so I can understand why people are -- are worried about it. It's certainly something that we're paying attention to on my show. What exactly
is Trump planning on doing? He's installed all sorts of election deniers in various positions of government. And there we keep hearing talk by various
conspiracy theorists who are connected to Trump, like Tina Peters from Colorado or Ed Martin and on and on of people who don't accept the fact
that President Trump lost fair and square in 2020 and are talking about taking steps in 2026. And we'll see what -- what they do if anything.
GOLODRYGA: Despite the fact that one of the reasons it makes our voting system so secure is that it is decentralized. It is controlled by the
states and locally, yet, the president is continuing, and his supporters, there to make threats and wield their own power if the outcome is not as
they desire.
Jake Tapper, whether it was 1998 or 2002, we always turn to you for your analysis, brilliant insight. So thank you once again.
TAPPER: No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on.
ASHER: I think he wants to say something.
TAPPER: Bianna. Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
TAPPER: I -- I personally and my staff also, but me personally, I'm going to miss you very much. I know, I think I'm guessing this is the last time
we're to talk on air for some time. Although we do have a knack of ending up at the same place, first at ABC, then at CNN.
GOLODRYGA: I followed you from ABC here, yes.
TAPPER: You are a magnificent reporter. You are an even better person. And I am lucky to call you my friend. And I'm going to miss you so much. But
I'm still going to text you and annoy you and send you stupid memes and all sorts of stuff and check in with the son that you have that you named after
me.
And, you know, I just want to --
ASHER: She told me that story, Jake.
TAPPER: And how much we're going to -- how much were' going to miss you and how much I personally am going to miss you. So thank you for your
friendship.
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GOLODRYGA: Do you know how many times I almost send Jake Tapper a note saying, what did you have for lunch today? And then I realize it's the
other Jake, my Jake.
TAPPER: Usually just a protein shake. Jake, you are the first Jake that I have known and worked with. And, Jake, I appreciate all of your support,
your friendship, your guidance. We all learn from you and I -- this -- this friendship will continue, so I just want to thank you.
TAPPER: I'm not worried about it, but -- but we'll miss you.
GOLODRYGA: I'll miss you too and I'll miss your team. You have an incredible, incredible team on "The Lead."
TAPPER: They're the best.
GOLODRYGA: So, I love working with them.
TAPPER: One hundred percent.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, they are. And on "State of the Union." Everyone here at CNN.
All right. More on that later in the show. Jake, thank you.
ASHER: Thanks, Jake. Jake, not Jacob.
GOLODRYGA: It's not Jacob.
ASHER: Private joke, private joke.
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
ASHER: All right. Still to come here on "One World," authorities in Kenya and Nigeria tried to reassure people that the Ebola cases there are under
control. We'll tell you what's happening on Sunday in Kenya that has some people worried.
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ASHER: All right. Nigeria's health minister says authorities have no evidence that the country's recent confirmed Ebola case has spread into the
wider community.
GOLODRYGA: On Tuesday, Nigeria reported its first Ebola case in more than a decade. It's the fourth country in Africa to have at least one confirmed
case in this current outbreak. You see the enhanced screening measures going on at the Lagos airport.
ASHER: The virus has killed more than 4,600 people, mostly in the DRC. And despite reassurances from officials, many Nigerians are worried that it
will spread there too.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They need to do more by disseminating proper information. There's some standard procedure the airline should follow,
like, giving everybody on board and health safety education by providing sanitizers (INAUDIBLE) and masks.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, everybody is scared. When I got the news, I was scared. See, if it was possible for me to cancel my visit, I would have,
but I cannot run away from my country. Nobody runs away from his father's land.
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ASHER: The WHO has called for vigilance and regional cooperation to control this deadly outbreak.
Joining me live now is the World Health Organization's acting representative to Kenya, Dr. Neema Rusibamayila Kimambo. Thank you so much
for being with us.
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I mean, when you think about the numbers here, I just want to put this in perspective for people. You've got one person, one confirmed case, rather,
in Nigeria. That is a country of 200 million people, one person in 200 million. And in Kenya, you've got nine confirmed cases. That is a country
of 46 million people, right? So the numbers are small.
However, people are afraid because of what we saw happen in West Africa just over 10 years ago. You now have a situation whereby it's not just
limited to the DRC and Uganda. It's now both in East and West Africa.
Can you talk to us about the specific screening measures that are taking place both, I guess, in Lagos, but of course, I guess, where you are, where
there are nine confirmed cases, in Kenya, at the main airport there in Nairobi?
DR. NEEMA RUSIBAMAYILA KIMAMBO, ACTING WHO REPRESENTATIVE TO KENYA: So at - - at the airport in Nairobi, as well as land ports, the hotel staff have been trained. And thermal scanners are in place to be able to detect anyone
who has fever.
And then there is an electronic traveler's declaration form where the health worker -- where the travelers are supposed to fill in the data. They
ask where they have been. They ask if they've been in contact with anyone who is sick. They're asked about symptoms. And also if they have been to an
area that is currently -- currently has active Ebola.
So, once they fit in this form, then they get a QR code that the cordial staff are able to scan. And the system is able to identify whether this
person is -- is OK or whether they need to have some follow-up or whether it was someone now that you need to consider to take into quarantine. So,
lots of efforts have gone into strengthening ports of entry.
GOLODRYGA: Doctor, investigators are examining a possible link between the Kenyan and Nigerian cases through Uganda's Entebbe airport. What more are
you learning about that potential connection?
KIMAMBO: I think this is something that is still being looked into. I just want to highlight that both of them were at the airport on the 3rd of
October. However, they took different flights. The -- the imported case to Kenya took the Jambojet's flights and the imported case to Nigeria took the
Ethiopian Airlines flight.
So, while they may have been there around the same time, it is not yet clear whether there is any point of contact. As you know airports are so
large, so it could be coincidental.
ASHER: One of the things that I think worries me, I mean, there are many things that worry me, but one of the things that I'm certainly concerned
about is that it's one thing when you are dealing with potentially the spread of Ebola in a large city like Nairobi, for example, where there is -
- there are major hospitals, there's labs, there's expertise. It's another thing if and when it really starts to spread to remote areas. And that is
one of the things that I'm sure you're thinking about as well.
It's not just about making sure that hospitals in Nairobi can handle this. It's about making sure the entire country -- this is if it does spread, if
it does sort of -- if it becomes an out-of-control problem like what we've seen in the DRC and -- and God hopes that it does not.
But if it does, how are you preparing the more rural and remote parts of Kenya to be able to handle Ebola cases as well?
KIMAMBO: From the first time that in May, when it was announced that there is an outbreak of Ebola in DRC and -- and also in Uganda, the Kenyan
government, as well as partners, including WHO, began to work with the -- the Ministry of Health in preparedness.
So, risk assessments were done to identify the strengths of the various areas that are important for the response. And then this was now used to --
to assist or to guide the preparedness activities.
So, this included looking at which counties we think are most at risk. So, they were categorized according to risk. And then all counties were
required to identify a place for quarantine, to identify places where they would, if they were to get cases, treatments. Patients could be treated.
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Capacity building has gone into training different health workers on various issues around surveillance because detection is really important
around educating the community and community engagement and also around lab to ensure what network of labs. So, each country knows if they do have a
suspected case, where would they quickly send, which lab would they quickly send the samples.
So, up to now, Kenya has tested. There have been alerts from several counties and has tested over 400 tests, including from the current -- from
the current case.
So, it is no -- this process did not start with the importation. The preparation had started long before.
And also when you talk about the risk of spread, I just want to mention that particularly for Kenya, this important case went straight to hospital.
There was significant efforts to identify all the contacts, over 130 contacts were listed and they were categorized depending on the level of
risk and they've been put into quarantine.
So, all the cases we are talking about, the additional eight cases, are of people who began to show signs and symptoms when they were in quarantine.
ASHER: All right, Dr. Neema Kimambo, thank you. Thank you for that. Appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Still to come on "One World," Brazil's presidential race is getting really personal ahead of Sunday's runoff. Up next, we'll
talk to a political expert about the bitter contest.
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ASHER: Sunday's big presidential runoff in Brazil will be all about turnout. That is what we're hearing from political observers there.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Incumbent president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and Brazilian Senator, Flavio Bolsonaro, are about even heading into Sunday's vote. The
senator is the eldest son and spitting image, of former president Jair Bolsonaro, who is now serving a sentence for plotting to overturn the 2022
election which he lost to Lula.
ASHER: There's also growing -- growing pressure, rather, on President Lula. He's clashed with the Trump administration over tariffs and a resurgent
right is sweeping through Latin America.
Time now for The Exchange. Let's go to Rio and bring in our Juliana Dal Piva, journalist and host of "The Secret Life of Jair" podcast and author
of "Jair's Business: The Forbidden History of the Bolsonaro Clan." Juliana, thank you so much for being with us.
As I mentioned at the top, it really is all about turnout. And one of the things we saw during the first round was that 20 percent of voters actually
stayed home. And that might have been a factor in the sort of surprise results, just sort of seeing Flavio Bolsonaro pull slightly ahead.
Now that Lula has had time now in the interim between the first round and the second round to really campaign and try to energize and galvanize
voters, are we going to see more people be motivated to come out to vote for him?
JULIANA DAL PIVA, JOURNALIST AND HOST, "THE SECRET LIFE OF JAIR" PODCAST: Thank you for having me in the show.
And I do think there is a very big chance to people show up to -- because we have like 33 million -- 33 million people who didn't vote in the first
round. And there is a very big campaign for people to show up.
But we are also receiving weather alerts from the south and southeast in Brazil. And we don't know how this is going to affect people who have to
vote in these regions. And these regions have a lot of Flavio voters, so maybe this can impact most of the -- the right voters, but it's going to be
a very close election.
And I think Lula's voters are more mobilized. They're -- we had so many huge protests for Lula, engaging in Lula's campaign in the past three
weeks. And this is very -- this is something very different from the past campaigns we had at least for the three past presidential elections. So,
there is a very big chance that people show up more to vote on Sunday.
GOLODRYGA: Juliana, even if Lula wins, Brazil's Congress has shifted significantly to the right. So, has the Bolsonaro movement in effect
already sort of overtaken the direction of power that the country will be headed in and legislating in, at least for the next few years?
DAL PIVA: Yes, there is a rise of the extreme right in Brazil, especially in the Senate. And they have a proposal very clear since the last election.
Not -- this is not even from now, that they want to impeach ministers from the Supreme Court.
And doesn't matter if they are involved in corruption crimes. They are going after the enemies. They already announced it, especially in the past
three weeks, because they are now the majority of the Senate.
And we have a very huge political scandal and corruption scandal going on and involving at least five ministers from the Supreme Court. And they are
also coming after parts of the constitution, especially the parts that -- that are involved with the women's rights and even children.
And there is a very big discussion in religious issues. So, it's going to be a very hard time in Brazil against the Constitution.
And Flavio also said that he wants to change the Constitution to extend the time for the president. So, we're having very difficult times no matter
what who wins on -- on Sunday.
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ASHER: Juliana, thank you. Juliana Dal Piva, we'll see what happens, right? Two days to go until these pivotal elections there in Brazil.
GOLODRYGA: All right. This just in. America's First Lady Melania Trump says that she has helped secure a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine for one-
city.
ASHER: According to the First Lady's office, the ceasefire will take place in Oleshky starting next Thursday. The goal is to facilitate what's being
called a humane evacuation of elderly residents. Both Russian and Ukrainian officials have now confirmed that there will be a limited ceasefire.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Still to come on "One World," tech giants have pledged to police themselves on A.I. safety, but is that enough? CNN speaks
with Microsoft's CEO about the challenges facing the industry.
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GOLODRYGA: Let's go check on how the markets are doing. About a mixed bag. The Dow is down nearly one percent. The NASDAQ, up almost two -- two-tenths
of a percent. And the S&P 500, down two-tenths of a percent. This is your business breakout.
ASHER: "Wall Street" investors are keeping a close eye on oil prices. That's after Brent crude, the global benchmark, surged four percent
Thursday to $113 a barrel. That is its highest level since May.
GOLODRYGA: Volvo car shares closed down more than 24 percent today, hitting fresh record lows after the Swedish automaker reported a much larger than
expected operating loss for the third quarter. The company also announced plans to eliminate another 2,500 jobs, mainly in Sweden.
ASHER: American Express is cutting five percent of its workforce, about 3,500 jobs to streamline operations and prepare for A.I. to take over more
internal processes. The announcement comes as the credit card giant raises its 2026 profit forecast after beating expectations in the third quarter.
GOLODRYGA: Last month, a group of tech executives gathered at the White House and agreed to a so-called morally binding deal to self-police. The
meeting came in the wake of a series of incidents that have raised widespread safety concerns tied to A.I.
ASHER: CNN's Clare Duffy spoke with Microsoft's A.I. CEO to get his perspective on the critical issue facing the tech industry and that, of
course, is largely about regulation. What did he say on that, Clare?
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CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: Yes, Zain, Bianna, I talked to Microsoft A.I. CEO, Mustafa Suleyman, and asked him how concerned he is about this
potential existential risk from artificial intelligence. He said that is a risk that we should be taking very seriously. And he said it's a good thing
that companies are starting to coordinate on how to put guardrails around this technology, but that, ultimately, we can't rely on companies to self-
police for these A.I. safety risks. Take a listen to what he told me.
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MUSTAFA SULEYMAN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, MICROSOFT AI: The airline industry doesn't self-regulate, like nor does the food standards industry
or the car industry or the oil industry. Or, you know, like we can't be overbearing in regulation. Of course, we can't.
But, you know, it will ultimately need like, you know, some kind of regulation, if not this year, next year, the year after.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DUFFY: Now, he says he believes that we need a humanist A.I. And in many ways, that sounds simple, A.I. that acts in service of humanity, doesn't
deceive people that you're talking to a person rather than a chatbot, doesn't try to hide its actions in its activity log, which is something
that we've seen these rogue A.I. incidents in the past.
But he said that we really do need potentially regulation to make sure that humans remain in control of this technology. And that could mean even
pausing the development of A.I. sometime within the next two to 10 years.
But what I thought was so interesting about his perspective is often people in the A.I. industry talk about this as something that is sort of
inevitable. We will get super intelligence that we may or may not be able to control.
His perspective is that we absolutely can and must control this technology. And it's these -- these companies, these leaders' responsibility to do just
that. Zain, Bianna.
ASHER: Al right. Clare Duffy, thank you for that. Appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: Well, billionaire Elon Musk has donated at least $445 million in the current election cycle.
ASHER: Yes, most of the money has gone into the Republican Party's efforts to keep control of the U.S. Senate. The Federal Election Commission's final
snapshots of political donations before Election Day shows that Musk put an additional $76 million into his super PAC in the first two weeks of this
month.
We'll be right back with more after this short break.
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HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Hello, special surprise. You know, you know, you know that you could not get away on your last day here at CNN
with me not making an appearance. Sorry it can't be live. I promised my mother I'd take her out to Queens. Long standing commitment, but I still
had to run the numbers on this special edition. And that of course is that love will in fact keep us together, Bianna.
[12:50:12]
And you know what? We can run through the numbers and I got some special stats for you right here. Take a look at this. I'm going to miss Bianna
with 100 percent, 100 percent of my heart. I mean, my goodness gracious. You can't get higher than 100 percent. That's what Trump had with MAGA
earlier this year, and maybe why, of course, he was quoting me all the time, President Trump.
And why am I going to miss you so much? Well, because being on with you, get this, makes me smile or made me smile a hundred percent of the time.
But I do have good news, I do have good news through all of this despite my broken heart. Get this, chance that Bianna, Bianna's mom and I get lunch,
you know what it is? You know what it is? It's 100 percent, it's 100 percent chance. That is the chance that the three of us will go out and get
lunch.
So adios amigos, my dear friend. Happy trails. And I guess it will be up to Zain and me to keep it up. And don't worry, I'm going to bring double the
energy going forward, Zain.
But, Bianna. Happy trails, be well. I'll see you around the bend.
GOLODRYGA: OK. Well, Harry just did three things. He made my mom's day again. He reminded me of how bittersweet this moment really is and why this
was such a difficult decision for me to make, to leave. I had a once-in-a- lifetime opportunity present itself, and yet, I've been here for nine years. And I have had the most incredible, experienced, met the most
amazing people, in the past three of those years have been with you, which leads me to the third reason.
ASHER: Oh, my God.
GOLODRYGA: This is so difficult, and that is this.
ASHER: Don't make me cry. Do not make me cry. I think --
GOLODRYGA: I could never have imagined having a co-anchor, a friend, a colleague who we gelled with from day one. You are incredibly talented,
gifted, have so much heart and empathy and smarts and curiosity.
ASHER: OK. We're not making this about me.
GOLODRYGA: Harry, your heart.
ASHER: We are not making this about me.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm going to miss every bit of that.
ASHER: I have to say, Bianna, like, I -- I'm -- I'm going to get really emotional because, honestly, like you're more than just my co-anchor. You
are my friend.
And, you know, it is not just the fact that you are such a gracious person and such a kind person. You're also so warm, so compassionate, so
hardworking, so loving, so funny. The number of times and -- I mean, the audience only knew that during the commercial break, she's having me in
hysteric and I am -- my stomach is hurt, like, hurting, I'm in so much pain because I'm laughing so hard.
You're just a wonderful person. And, you know, I'm -- I'm just -- I'm so sad. I'm so happy for you, of course. I'm so sad.
Julia, can you come in because I have a little surprise?
GOLODRYGA: Oh, no. Oh, no.
ASHER: -- for Bianna. OK. So, I don't know whether you are a chocolate or vanilla person, it's something very small, a little bit of cupcakes for
you.
GOLODRYGA: Chocolate. Chocolate all the way.
ASHER: We will miss you so much. There you go.
GOLODRYGA: Julie, come say hi. You come help us. Oh, no. OK. OK. Another time.
ASHER: We -- we will miss you so much. And, you know, I got very emotional when you broke the news to me. I was literally in tears. And so, yes, we
love you. And you are a wonderful person.
GOLODRYGA: We were in the middle of a joke when I finally had to tell her, OK, can I come to your office with you? All kidding aside and told you the
news earlier. Obviously, we couldn't do what we do with such ease without the wonderful team that we work with, that you don't see at home, that
makes all of this happen and that is Imani (ph), Camille (ph), Catherine (ph), all of the writers, the tech ops, every single person who has been
part of this operation.
ASHER: Julia, who's standing right here.
GOLODRYGA: Julia doesn't want to come introduce herself to the world. But it has been an honor and a privilege to work with you. The show started as
a one-hour show. We expanded to a two-hour show.
I want to thank the "Amanpour" team as well. I've been working with them for the last four years regularly. And they are just an incredible,
incredible team of talented workers. I know we've had a lot of news this week. Our friend Christiane has well made an announcement.
But there's so much to be proud of here and the work being done at CNN. I will always be cheering and rooting for all of you. We will stay in touch.
We will continue to talk.
ASHER: Oh, my gosh. Of course.
GOLODRYGA: And I just want to thank all of our viewers who have welcomed us into your homes, into your lives, who have trusted us to bring you of some
the world's top breaking news stories all of these years. I will miss you and I will keep cheering for my friends here at CNN. So, I'm going to miss
you. Thank you.
[12:55:02]
ASHER: And see you on Monday.
GOLODRYGA: And goodbye.
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