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CNN Live Event/Special
"24/7: Pacquiao-Marquez"
Aired October 23, 2011 - 00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
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ANNOUNCER: The following is a presentation of HBO Sports.
NARRATOR: In every corner of the world, the quest for supremacy in some form is evident. Men seek power over one another -- power that begets wealth, influence, and, in its strongest forms, immortality -- a guarantee of being remembered long after one's greatest days have passed.
This stage was created for the express purpose of determining supremacy. But sometimes in extraordinary circumstances the results inside differ starkly from realities that evolve far beyond.
Seven years ago, two men found themselves pitted against each other in the ring. And 12 exhilarating rounds of boxing revealed only how even a match they were.
So, a few years later, they met again -- an evening that yielded a victor but also an echoing quantity of dispute.
Two bouts that hardly determined who was superior. But in the time that's passed since, while both have remained world-class fighters, only one has risen to a standing that transcends his place in the sport, global icon.
But inside these ropes, both men know in its purest of forms, supremacy remains very much unresolved.
JUAN MIGUEL MARQUEZ, PROFESSIONAL BOXER (translated): I have to leave it all in the ring. I have to prove who won those two fights.
MANNY PACQUIAO, PROFESSIONAL BOXER: I have to prove in this fight that, you know, he's wrong.
NARRATOR: From the Philippine Islands, the mountains of Mexico City, to the California coast, to where it all started, a boxing ring on the Las Vegas Strip.
This is "24/7: Pacquiao-Marquez."
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NARRATOR: Three hundred thousand people live in Baguio City, the official summer capital of the Philippines. And on a recent rainy day downtown, many of them knew exactly where their most famous part-time resident was spending his afternoon. On Naguilan Road inside the Cooyesan Hotel and Plaza, at the shapeup boxing gym, where the walls inside are a tribute to him.
Manny Pacquiao is many things to many people. For now, he's a prizefighter in the midst of a 10-week training camp for the 59th bout of his professional career.
PACQUIAO: I always having fun in training, in boxing. And I think it's because boxing is my passion.
FREDDIE ROACH, PACQUIAO'S TRAINER: Everything in Manny Pacquiao's life is because of boxing. And he knows that, and he understands that. And it's still what he does best. And he hasn't forgotten that.
NARRATOR: He also hasn't forgotten what's happened the last two times he's met Juan Manuel Marquez in the ring -- a draw in 2004 and a narrow split-decision victory in 2008. Inconclusive results that continue to linger as their third clash on November 12th approaches.
ALEX ARIZA, PACQUIAO'S CONDITIONING COACH: This camp is unique I think just because this is personal for him. You have two fights with Marquez that are to some people controversial. So, for Manny he wants to make sure that that doesn't happen again.
ROACH: Manny has a way different edge in this training camp so far. The way he started training camp this time early and what he's doing so far, I see a different Manny Pacquiao.
NARRATOR: His intensity has put him ahead of schedule, which is why today, Freddie Roach has initiated a role reversal -- enlisting Pacquiao as a sparring partner for another of his fighters, lightweight contender Jorge Linares, preparing for a title fight in just a few days.
PACQUIAO: It's helped me a lot because Linares' style is similar to Marquez style. Linares is much faster than Marquez.
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JORGE LINARES, PROFESSIONAL BOXER (translated): It's the best thing that's ever happened to me. It's a unique experience. And you know, it's good sparring for me. He's number one in the world.
NARRATOR: Afterwards, as the workday winds down, another sparring session offers something of a diversion. Two Pacquiao subordinates gloving up, for better or worse.
PACQUIAO: We have Mike Tyson look-alike. And we have a Philippine assassin.
(LAUGHTER) ROACH: There's only like four of us that really have a job in the entourage. But you know, the entourage is probably 50 deep at this time and those guys, you know, their job now is to entertain Manny.
PACQUIAO: OK. No hitting below the belt. And when I say break, break. OK? Box!
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ARIZA: This is Manny's world. So, he's the referee. He's the matchmaker. He's the promoter.
PACQUAIO (translated): If you don't throw a real punch, you two will be disqualified. Come on! Come on!
I want them to feel how hard boxing is.
Five thousand for a knockout!
Their punches came from other planets.
Box, box, box, box! The fight is terrible, man.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you OK?
ROACH: It is quite a spectacle. It's a little embarrassing to the sport, to be honest with you.
PACQUIAO: It's kind of a disappointing box. So it's a draw.
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NARRATOR: Nearly 9,000 miles away, you'll find the political, financial, and cultural center of Mexico -- and the largest metropolitan area in the entire western hemisphere.
But in Mexico city's Iztacalco neighborhood, you'll also discover a small tight-knit group that comes to work every day at the Romanza Boxing Gym to help Juan Manuel Marquez train -- which is just the way he likes it.
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MARQUEZ: I think we've got an indispensable group of people on this team. Why would we need people who can't help us with anything? Everyone has a clear role.
Nacho Beristain is still my trainer. Raul De Anda is my assistant. Jose Luis Zaragoza does mitts with me. The team is the same as ever and that's the way we like it. NARRATOR: They are a group of men with faith in one another, as well as conviction that a long-awaited third bout with Manny Pacquiao will at last deliver the right result.
NACHO BERISTAIN, MARQUEZ TRAINER (translated): Boxing is traumatic, difficult. But Juan enjoys it, because on the other side of the chessboard, he's facing the champion of the world.
MARQUEZ: The boxing community sees Manny Pacquiao as the best pound-for-pound fighter. I think that's why I want this fight, why I've always wanted this fight. He knows he hasn't beaten me decisively and it's like a thorn in my side that I want to pull out. Because I want to do my job and I want to make it clear who really won.
NARRATOR: Seven years ago, when they first met in Las Vegas, they were the two best featherweights in the world. High action was expected. High drama ensued.
BERISTAIN: He came out full of confidence, too confident, and he was going to give Pacquiao a boxing lesson, but suddenly the arena fell on top of him.
ROACH: He iced him with that first shot. You think the fight's over. And, you know, of course, he gets up.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: He's hurt. He's hurt.
BERISTAIN: We understood in that moment, we were going up against something more than we'd been expecting. A bundle of dynamite that looked like a Filipino guy.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Third knockdown of the first round. And I'm not sure Juan Manuel will be able to get up.
ROACH: We go to the third one. Right? Now, the fight's definitely over. But he just refused to end it.
NARRATOR: Marquez had found a way to survive the storm. He soon was able to recalibrate his counterattack.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: In round 1, Manny Pacquiao suddenly shut out the lights. Now, they're gradually coming back on.
MARQUEZ: From then on, I could measure his speed. I think that the first round was a shock for me. It helped me keep him from connecting with the same power he had in the first round.
PACQUIAO: I'm amazed because after a few rounds, he fight back and, you know, he was still strong.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Fire against fire. Down the stretch. Pacquiao's left, Marquez's right.
NARRATOR: They had seemingly exchanged punches without pause for 12 straight rounds. And when the violent showcase concluded, the scorecards rendered a draw.
MARQUEZ: I think we did everything possible to win. I feel, and the people know, that we barely won but we won.
PACQUIAO: I'm confident that I won that fight. And when I heard the decision is a draw, I mean, you had to accept that. You cannot change it.
NARRATOR: A rematch wouldn't occur until 2008. But once back in the ring, Marquez and Pacquiao immediately picked up where they'd left off.
FIGHT COMMENTAOR: Left hook for Pacquiao. Marquez to punctuate the second round.
PACQUIAO: He caught me in the second round. But I can handle his power.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Down goes Marquez on a straight left hand. Perfect shot by Pacquiao.
ROACH: Down he goes again. And I was surprised that he'd get up? No. I mean, we've seen this guy before. So, we know he has no quit in him.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Pacquiao trying to search and destroy. Marquez trying to shock him with counterpunching.
One more right hand for Marquez. One more combination for Pacquiao. They trade shots down the stretch.
Hell of a fight. I'm calling it another draw.
ROACH: You know, if you go ask 100 people who won that fight, you might get 50-50. You know, the thing is, I felt my guy did enough to win the fight, and I thought the knockdown was the icing on the cake.
FIGHT ANNOUNCER: The winner on split decision, Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao!
MARQUEZ: We thought we won the second fight. We won by two or three points. To have won those fights would pout me where Pacquiao is now.
NARRATOR: It is a fact of Manny Pacquiao's life now. Whenever he lands at Los Angeles International Airport, his arrival becomes its own media event.
Of course, he doesn't shy away from the attention. He did, after all, announce his flight number on Twitter, encouraging the throngs to seek a glimpse of his first moments back in L.A.
Training camp in Baguio lasted three weeks. Now, following a 24- hour accommodation for jet lag, work resumes at the Wildcard Gym in Hollywood. ROACH: Let's go.
Come on. Come on.
Hit me with a hook.
Six. Let's go. Six.
NARRATOR: While Pacquiao is the biggest name in the gym, with his fight still nearly a month away, the focus here is on sparring mate Jorge Linares, as his bout is just days away. On the undercard of the Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson fight at nearby Staples Center.
BOB ARUM, TOP RANK: You'll enjoy the fight tonight. Linares is --
PACQUIAO: That's a good fight.
ARUM: Yes.
NARRATOR: As dusk settles on a Saturday night downtown, Staples Center is the focus of the boxing universe. A sense only reinforced by Manny Pacquiao's arrival.
Before heading to his ringside seat, the fighter takes a detour to wish his sparring partner good luck.
PACQUIAO: Are you ready?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give him a hug and a kiss, and let's go.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Freddie Roach and physical trainer Alex Ariza cannot conceal their enthusiasm about Linares.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, Pacquiao!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jorge Linares sparred 30 rounds with Manny Pacquiao in preparation for this fight.
OSCAR DELA HOYA, GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS: How's training, good?
PACQUIAO: Real good, thank you.
DELA HOYA: Good luck.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Manny.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Hard right hand! Jorge Linares physically has everything.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: There's a hard right hand by DeMarco. DeMarco's landed some very good clean shots in the last minute. And now there's blood on Linares's nose. Jorge Linares cut in two places on his face, maybe three. FIGHT COMMENTATOR: So far, Linares has shown a real fighter's mentality.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: There's still a minute to go in the 11th. Two amazing shots by DeMarco! How did Linares stay up? And Raul Cais (ph) is going to stop the fight and give DeMarco a TKO victory!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Manny! Whoo!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He fought his heart out.
PACQUIAO: Breaks my heart.
NARRATOR: In most places, Manny Pacquiao's stardom can overpower everything. But there are spots where his original identity can reveal itself without interference.
In a way, he's most comfortable here, among the Jorge Linareses of the world -- among fighters.
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NARRATOR: Every morning at the Romanza Gym, before Juan Manuel Marquez arrives, Nacho Beristain trains the latest generation of Mexican boxers.
BERISTAIN: Left, right, hook to the liver.
NARRATOR: He opened the venue 19 years ago, thinking of the future with a nod to the past.
BERISTAIN: We had the idea to use the name of a great fighter who was from here. One of the most technical boxers ever, his name is Gilbert Roman. And those two letters are from a fighter we could never leave out, that was Daniel Zaragoza. So we combined the last two names, Romanza.
NARRATOR: Daniel Zaragoza's nephew, Jose Luis, is a former fighter who serves as one of Beristain's lieutenants.
DANIEL ZARAGOZA (translated): Nacho is very strict, very set in his ways about how to work. A jab should be like this, and there's no other way to throw a jab.
BERISTAIN: Feint. Feint, you dumb. Don't you know what feint means? What are you doing, dude?
MARQUEZ: Nacho is the kind of trainer where if he tells you to do something, you have to do it. I like that, I don't like a trainer who spoils me. Just the opposite, I like a trainer who pushes me to get things done. NARRATOR: And as Beristain leads Marquez into his third bout with Pacquiao, the trainer has determined the opponent is now a more refined fighter in the ring, a development he feels might actually give Marquez an advantage.
BERISTAIN: We're really glad because we're going up against a fighter whose punches were well thrown. It's easier than taking on a wildcat who might make some strange move at any time.
NARRATOR: For now, his fighter goes up against sparring partners. Their only resemblance to Manny Pacquiao is that they're all southpaws. And that's enough for Beristain.
BERISTAIN: As the fight gets closer, it will be more difficult for those poor sparring partners. They'll get hurt a lot. Sometimes he doesn't punch at full power, but he still hurts them.
MARQUEZ: Pacquiao, he doesn't like to be attacked. But I'm a fighter who uses intelligence, who attacks, who counterpunches, and uses combinations that others haven't used. I think my style is difficult for him.
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NARRATOR: The collaboration between Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach has long been celebrated as the premier partnership in boxing. But for the last three years, Alex Ariza has also played a crucial role in that success.
ARIZA: Freddie Roach has given me the responsibility and trust to do something, to do a job, and making sure at the end of the day that our hand is raised. And I think for us -- for me, that's the most important part.
NARRATOR: Jorge Linares's loss actually underscored the success Ariza and roach have had together. Previously, Pacquiao and three other fighters had combined for 16 consecutive victories under their watch.
ARIZA: Any strength and conditioning coach in the world would like to be in my position, just to be working with Manny Pacquiao, the best fighter in the world, but I'm also with the best trainer in the world.
NARRATOR: The association began in 2008 in the weeks following Pacquiao's second fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, a night when the boxer felt his body beginning to betray him.
PACQUIAO: You know, I feel after the fight, what I feel is my legs cramping in that fight. I don't know why. After the fight, I'm looking for a good conditioning coach. That's why I hired Alex Ariza.
ARIZA: Go, go, go, go. Come on. Tight, tight, tight, tight.
I explained to him, you know, if you want to take yourself to the next level, you have to do things differently. You can't do the same things over and over again.
When Freddie finally gave me the job of training Manny, he just said, I only have one request, don't -- the speed.
NARRATOR: The move paid immediate dividends. Pacquiao began a steady march up in weight, dominating a series of larger opponents along the way. The results have made Ariza an indispensable member of team Pacquiao. Alongside Roach and close friend Buboy Fernandez.
BUBOY FERNANDEZ: Alex Ariza was a great fit because of how he conditions and develops strength. Although we could have handled it, it's really different when you have someone who is an expert.
ARIZA: You'll just say, listen, bro, my leg was cramped up. Otherwise, I would have knocked you out. OK? Twice.
First, starting with Manny, he was a good fighter and he was a good athlete.
There you go. Footwork, footwork, footwork. Speed.
Now, he's a complete athlete. He's just more dynamic.
Quick.
ROACH: Alex is very good at what he does. He is a big plus for Manny Pacquiao. The combination works very well.
NARRATOR: And as November 12th approaches, Ariza's confident the work he's done with Pacquiao will ensure an irrefutable outcome this time against Marquez.
ARIZA: His last two fights were too close. But now, he's a whole completely different person. I just don't see Marquez as having any kind of shot, aside from divine intervention. I would be surprised if this thing goes three rounds.
NARRATOR: In Mexico City traffic, the drive is close to an hour -- Romanza Gym to a television studio on the northern outskirts of town. Once a week after training Juan Manuel Marquez reports for work here, at ESPN Deportes, where he serves as an analyst on the networking boxing news show, "Golpe a Golpe," blow by blow.
JORGE EDUARDO SANCHEZ, ESPN DEPORTES (translated): Welcome, this is "Golpe a Golpe". Just like every week, we are Juan Manuel Marquez and Jorge Eduardo Sanchez.
Freddie Roach has said, Juan, that if the fight were tomorrow, they're ready.
MARQUEZ: Yes, I think he's ready. I am too.
If he wants it to be tomorrow, bring it on.
SANCHEZ: Thanks to Juan Manuel Marquez. That's all! NARRATOR: It is his final appearance on the show before the Pacquiao fight. Afterwards, he heads out for a dinner date, a not so traditional Mexican meal with his family.
MARQUEZ: She'd like some rice, cream cheese, avocado? And some sesame seeds.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just don't like seaweed.
MARQUEZ: I believe the support of my wife and children is very important. My oldest son is Aldo Manuel. He's 13 years old. My middle child is six, Juan Emilio. And my daughter is the youngest. Her name is Alison Natalia, and she's 4.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, because I know it has raw meat in it.
MARQUEZ: It's now raw meat. It tastes just like steak.
Right now I'm training really hard. It's not always fun because I come home really exhausted. By the time I get home, they might be asleep. So I don't get to spend as much quality time with them as I'd like, but after the fight, it will be great to be with them again.
NARRATOR: They all go to bed soon after arriving home. But just a few hours later, as his family sleeps, Marquez rises to begin another day of training at 5:00 a.m.
MARQUEZ: I've always been an athlete who takes things seriously. I throw myself into what I'm doing. I'm an athlete that doesn't like to lose.
This is what keeps me competitive. It keeps me going in this sport.
NARRATOR: Time can be a curious factor in the lives of fighters. While careers can last decades, legacies are generated by just a handful of nights over that span.
Seven years have passed since Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez first exchanged blows in the ring, and three years since they last touched gloves -- separated by just a few numbers on the scorecards.
Now, suddenly, just three weeks remain. Until one more night in the ring again puts their legacies up for review.
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PACQUIAO: I feel confident in myself. But I'm not underestimating him.
MARQUEZ: What's important is that he knows me and I know him. Everything is there in the middle of the ring. Without blood, there's no fight.
ROACH: Another close decision is not going to be satisfying to me. I want Manny to knock this guy out and shut him up. Close the book on this.
NARRATOR: Stay tuned for "Pacquiao-Marquez Face-Off" with Max Kellerman. And don't miss thing about fight, "Pacquiao-Marquez 3," Saturday, November 12th, live on HBO Pay-Per-View.
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MAX KELLERMAN, HOST, "FACE-OFF WITH MAX KELLERMAN": As the whole world knows by now, Manny Pacquiao and one of the greatest fighters of this or any era. And so far, his chief rival outside the ring has been Floyd Mayweather.
But on November 12th, live from the MGM Grand Garden Arena and on HBO Pay-Per-View, Manny Pacquiao gets back into the ring for the third time with his chief rival inside the ring, and that's the great lightweight champion, Juan Manuel Marquez. We have them both here right now with their trainers, the great Freddie Roach, and Nacho Beristain.
Let's get started. Gentlemen.
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FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Out of the Wildcard Gym in Hollywood, sparring partners with broken ribs. Sparring partners (INAUDIBLE) after one day. Knockouts day after day in sparring. None of that means anything now. Marquez is no sparring partner.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Marquez comes out in a more offensive stance than he usually does.
FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Manny Pacquiao showing a lot more movement than most southpaws. But it seems he's having a tough time to get his rhythm together, and leaving himself exposed.
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KELLERMAN: Let's freeze it right there.
Juan, so far in the first round, it seemed to be going more or less your way. But Pacquiao has that kind of speed and power that just like that. Even with your doing everything right, you can find yourself on the canvas. What happened?
MARQUEZ: In this round when I start this round, I have confidence. I have confidence in myself, and this is a surprise with me.
KELLERMAN: It surprised you?
MARQUEZ: Yes.
KELLERMAN: Manny. He caught you with a good left hook that drove you to the ropes before you knocked him down.
PACQUIAO: It hurt. But I didn't -- I didn't hurt at all to distract my concentration to the fight. And when I got hit on that punch, I was still focused and fighting back to, you know?
KELLERMAN: Let's continue.
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FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Marquez has been down twice! Lands a good straight left. That momentarily backed Pacquiao up.
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KELLERMAN: Juan, no one has ever accused Manny of being a dirty fighter. He's a good sportsman.
But here we see after the third knockdown, he hit you again while you were down against the ropes. You are both known as having very good first-quarter instincts when you have your man hurt. Did you feel that Manny's hitting you here was part of his instincts or did you think it was dirty when you fell against the ropes and hit you again?
MARQUEZ: Yes. That I feel the referee say something to Manny --
MARQUEZ'S TRANSLATOR: I thought the referee was going to tell him something, warning him, you know, he shouldn't have done that. I know he hit me when I was down.
KELLERMAN: Manny, would you like to address that?
PACQUIAO: One of the rules of boxing is when you hit your gloves on the canvas you cannot punch your opponent. And he didn't hit the canvas yet, and he hold the rope, and the glove is in --
KELLERMAN: We can see it again.
KELLERMAN: In a way this may be the most heroic moment of your career, where the great Manny Pacquiao knocks you down, you're -- actually the glove was on the canvas, you got hit again hard, two knockdowns and one knockdown. And you still managed to beat the count.
How badly were you hurt?
MARQUEZ'S TRANSLATOR: I felt good. I felt good. I was down, but I felt good.
KELLERMAN: Manny, what were you thinking during the course of this round when the guy keeps getting up off the canvas and throwing hard shots back? Did you think at that point even though you had him on the canvas, this might be a long night? PACQUIAO: Yes. I mean, when I got him the second knockdown and he got up, I know he's going to be tough for me.
KELLERMAN: Let's continue.
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KELLERMAN: Now, here we have Juan, you landed a really good straight right hand. I imagine it's discouraging for you to land a pinpoint right hand. You're an excellent puncher. You've knocked a lot of fighters out. And he doesn't go down. He just keeps fighting.
MARQUEZ: Yes. I use my right hand. In the gym, if I want to win I need to use the right hand.
KELLERMAN: But usually, when you land a right hand like that, the guy goes down. He did not go down.
MARQUEZ: Yes. Because Manny, he's strong. He has a great --
KELLERMAN: Great chin.
MARQUEZ: Great chin.
KELLERMAN: How was Juan able to land right hands like that in their encounters?
ROACH: Well, when you're fighting a southpaw, I used to like to fight southpaws myself. You know, they are suckers for right hands if you're in the right position. He just wasn't on the button.
KELLERMAN: I'm sorry. Could you show me, Juan? Could you come over here for one second? Would you mind?
Manny, can you come over here for one second? Would you mind?
Show me, Freddie, in this position, they were like this. And Marquez had just landed a right hand, right? If you just threw it. And Manny gets hit with it. Why is Manny getting hit with is this right hand?
ROACH: Because he has his foot on the outside and when Manny jabs, he comes down the middle with this shot here and Manny's over his shoulder.
KELLERMAN: How do you correct that mistake?
ROACH: You get your foot on the other side and take that away from him.
KELLERMAN: So, can you show me if he throws the right hand where do you want Manny?
ROACH: When he has position here, when he had his foot in the outside, he lands the right hand there. If I take the foot --
KELLERMAN: Can I see Manny? This is what the people want to see.
ROACH: Manny takes his foot outside here, and now he takes that away from him and now he has this shot here.
PACQUIAO: Who has the good position is --
KELLERMAN: Is going to land the punch?
PACQUIAO: Going to land the good punch.
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FIGHT COMMENTATOR: (INAUDIBLE). Fire against fire! Pacquiao's right. Pacquiao's left. Marquez's right.
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KELLERMAN: When you watch that sort of thing, what do you think to yourself?
Manny?
PACQUIAO: I think with Marquez and I we fight like a fighter, you know, in the ring. We give what peoples want.
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FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Down goes Marquez!
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KELLERMAN: Now, what's amazing to me about this knockdown is that you already knew you had to be careful from the first fight and he threw a punch that nobody else can throw, a weird kind of shot. Can we rewind that and see that again?
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FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Down goes Marquez!
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KELLERMAN: He was able to cross a left hand over in a position that didn't look like he should be able to hit that hard with. How do you prepare for that?
MARQUEZ'S TRANSLATOR: I saw the perfect opening. I'm going to lend this left hook and, all of a sudden, I'm getting hit.
KELLERMAN: That didn't discourage you? MARQUEZ'S TRANSLATOR: No, it makes me more motivated. What happened here, you know, this isn't happening again.
KELLERMAN: That's why he's a great fighter.
Freddie, am I wrong? Is that the perfect position to land the left hand? It didn't seem to me that he could get that kind of power on a straight left hand like that.
ROACH: Yes, but he was turning -- he turned into the punch. It was just two forces hitting together, because you see it was a little choppy shot for Manny, it wasn't really a big power shot, but you see, what we talk about with accuracy, this is right on the button. The accuracy will do that.
KELLERMAN: Amazing.
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KELLERMAN: There we see later in the fight he gets back up and there he is landing the straight right hand again in another tough exchange.
Can you guys get up one more time? Would you mind? He was able to land the right hand because again the left foot is outside of Manny's right foot. Correct?
MARQUEZ: This is fight with gloves and fight with the foot too. I need to -- my foot, I --
KELLERMAN: Establish the outside position with your lead foot.
PACQUIAO: Whoever get first here has the advantage.
KELLERMAN: Here the right hand -- here the right hand lands, and it was landing with a lot of frequency there because as you mentioned, he established outside position with his left foot.
PACQUIAO: Go first here.
MARQUEZ: I'm looking for my look --
KELLERMAN: You make that step and show me what Manny needs to do. Make that step again.
PACQUIAO: Yes.
KELLERMAN: OK. Let's see. Can you throw the right hand?
ROACH: And he comes over the top here.
KELLERMAN: With the left hand?
PACQUIAO: Yes.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FIGHT COMMENTATOR: Here comes the blood, and here comes the crowd on their feet. Everybody's up. One more right hand for Marquez. One more combination for Pacquiao. And trading shots.
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KELLERMAN: Did you think you won the fight?
MARQUEZ: Yes. Yes. I think I won the fight.
KELLERMAN: Manny, did you think you won the fight when the bell rang?
PACQUIAO: Yes.
KELLERMAN: You thought you won the fight?
PACQUIAO: Yes. That's why we have a third fight.
(LAUGHTER)
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KELLERMAN: In terms of the build-up to this fight, you're seen by many as an appetizer for him to fight Floyd Mayweather.
How do you feel about that?
MARQUEZ: I don't know. I feel bad because people think he will win. That people think, but November 12 is --
MARQUEZ'S TRANSLATOR: You can think of -- he can think about Mayweather. He has to think about November 12th. I have to think about November 12th.
KELLERMAN: Manny, do you feel that there's unfinished business with you and Marquez?
PACQUIAO: The problem is Marquez is not satisfied with the decision of the last two fights. You know, that's his rights to complain. But, you know, this is the third time. That's why I okay for this fight because I want to finish all the doubt in his mind and the fans' mind, you know, the doubt that who really win. Marquez and me, we can give a good fight to the people.
KELLERMAN: Juan, you were ducked in the era of Barrera and Morales. You couldn't get any big fights. And yet, here you are 37 years old, lightweight champion of the world, fighting Pacquiao for the third time. Do you feel that your legacy -- can you translate? -- is on the line against Pacquiao?
(SPEAKING SPANISH) MARQUEZ: Yes. Yes. This is the great legacy for me.
TRANSLATOR: It's going to be greater. My career will be the greatest career as soon as I beat him.
KELLERMAN: Freddie, what's on the line for Manny Pacquiao?
ROACH: For Manny Pacquiao, to be president of the Philippines and win this fight.
KELLERMAN: Right now, he's only president of the boxing universe.
ROACH: Correct.
KELLERMAN: Co-president.
Guys, thank you very much for coming today. As always --
MARQUEZ: I want to say something.
KELLERMAN: Yes?
MARQUEZ: That people will see another war. That people will see another great fight, because I prepare myself very hard and I look for the victory.
KELLERMAN: Manny, have you ever had a rival like Juan Manuel Marquez, who's given you 24 rounds back and forth?
MARQUEZ: No.
KELLERMAN: Even Morales?
PACQUIAO: Not even Morales.
KELLERMAN: OK. Thank you, guys.
ANNOUNCER: Tune in next Saturday night at midnight for the next "24/7 Pacquiao-Marquez." And don't miss the big fight, Pacquiao- Marquez 3, Saturday, November 12th, live on HBO Pay-Per-View.
This has been a presentation of HBO Sports.
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