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America's Choice: Trump's Stunning Victory Ignites Protests; Obama Promises A "Peaceful Transition"; Trump Not Turning to Insiders for Cabinet Positions; Reaction to Trump's Victory from Around the World. Aired 1-2a ET
Aired November 10, 2016 - 01:00 ET
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[01:00:22] POPPY HARLOW, CNN HOST: Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. It is 1:00 a.m. here in New York. I'm Poppy Harlow live with you this evening. We have CNN's special coverage of the most spectacular and stunning political shakeup in modern history.
Tonight, mass demonstrations in New York, Oakland, and Portland, and other major cities across the country, the fallout from an election shocker. The democrats, not to mention many republicans thought was impossible, and then polls said was improbable.
Crowds chanting Donald Trump is not our president speaking (INAUDIBLE) and in some cases burning or hanging effigies of the president-elect.
Just hours from now Trump will head to the White House for a meeting with President Obama as they begin the task of a peaceful transition of power. A hallmark of America's democracy.
And tonight, we have live team coverage. CNN's Jean Casarez and Ryan Young are following the demonstrations in New York and Chicago. Our Paul Vercammen is on the west coast in Los Angeles.
And Paul, let me begin with you. Set the scene for us, what are the protesters doing, what are they saying tonight?
PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, there is about 1200 protesters, they've scattered throughout downtown.
If you look over here, they are basically chanting all kinds of things including Trump -- excuse me, love Trumps hate. Now, they're chanting one person, one vote.
Many of the people in this crowd have expressed to us that they fear that some of their relatives or friends might be deported under a Trump presidency.
Also tonight, many people expressed to us, as Californians, they feel that their votes didn't matter in this election because the Electoral College and some of them went so far as to say that they thought that California should secede from the union.
So, a lot of different experiences and a lot of people here rather spirited, Poppy. Earlier by the way, they burned a Trump head in effigy and now they're chanting "Not our president!"
CROWD: Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president!
VERCAMMEN: All right, Poppy. It's going to be difficult for me to hear you if you try to fire away a question. So, I'll toss back to you right now the scene in Los Angeles.
This has been peaceful. The L.A. Police Department has been taking a hand's off approach. And at one point, one of the protesters got on the bullhorn and thanked them with the hands off approach and for protecting them.
And again, they are chanting "Not our president" back to you, Poppy.
HARLOW: Paul Vercammen, live for us in Los Angeles. Let's take a look at what Paul was talking about, and pull that up for our viewers to see, one of the things that was burned tonight, earlier tonight.
Jean Casarez is in New York City. And Jean, you're with a crowd of protesters. It's past 1:00 in the morning here in New York. They're in front of Trump Tower. We've learned from the police, 15 people have been arrested for disorderly conduct.
What are the protesters saying tonight about what they want to see happen. I hear their frustration. What is the action that they would like to see?
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's anger and it's hatred and ironically they're saying the same thing we just heard in Los Angeles that Paul Vercammen was telling us they were saying.
But the crowd has really dispersed here as you can see behind me. There a lot of New York police officers, because they started telling people through a recorded message that they were beginning to block the sidewalk, and if they didn't disperse, they would be arrested for disorderly conduct. And as you said, 15 of them were arrested throughout the evening.
But at the height of this today, remember we started in Union Square and walked 40 blocks with them here. And what their saying is it's hatred. It's hatred against Donald Trump. It's hatred against Mike Pence. It's hatred against the system in general.
With some of them, signs saying that America has never been great. At the height of this, the New York Police Department said there were approximately 5,000 people.
I want you to listen to what one protester said to me at the right at the height of everything tonight. Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Part of it was a deep fear of a racist reaction that Donald Trump will re-enact harsher stop and frisk laws that will wind up putting so many people back into prison.
Also, a deep fear at the sexism that will be bubbling up through the United States, because you saw this incredibly qualified woman to be president being superseded by a man who has no qualifications at all for the office.
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CASAREZ: And so what it really got to tonight before they dispersed was they just started chanting different things and they started clapping their hands, one was "Pay your taxes," one was talking against the tower saying "New York hates Trump." They said that a lot.
So, I think anything that they could get their message across, a message of really hatred, not only upset that he was elected last night as our next President of the United States, but just a passion -- just a passion to -- as you can see, there's some volatile people here. So, I'm going to send it back to you.
HARLOW: All right, Jean Casarez reporting for us. Thank you very much, Jean.
And Ryan Young, to you in Chicago, you're at the protests there. I wonder if you're hearing anything else from the protesters there just in terms of what they want to see happen now?
Are there any solutions or any talk of unity?
RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRSPONDENT: No solutions so far. A lot of people hoping far last ditch effort where maybe somehow, Trump doesn't become president.
I can say the group actually split into three different groups and walked down the street just a few minutes ago. And in fact, I just heard one of the police radio say there are only group of about 200 left.
But this is the scene where everybody was outside the Trump building here in Chicago. We had several thousand people have been marching since about 5:00. And one of the things I want to show you, Poppy, is this blockade that they have right here.
This is what they had set up so no one could get across the bridge to the hotel and the residences of Trump Tower. That's where they wanted to stop.
We heard a lot of people wanting to scream a lot of vulgarity. And getting on top of city buses as well. In fact, we talked to one of the passing man in the street about what he would like to you see happen in the next few days.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're blocking the street, they're burning flags, they're standing on buses, they're writing swear words all over buses. It's not helping.
This isn't - this is not helping. I wanted Hillary to win more than anybody. Anybody. And to stand out here and to not have a call to action and not be specific, that's why we're - that's why we're here where we are now, because we haven't been talking about policy, because we haven't been being specific. Because we've been talking about the things that don't matter.
YOUNG: So you heard that anger. You can hear his frustration. A lot of people were upset with the idea that people were blocking streets. Look, look. People were saying it's too late for some of these.
I want to show you some of the destruction that happened out here as he was talking about what he didn't want to see any more of the fact that people were doing spray painting, they were jumping on city buses. That was what something that he was like, "Hey, let's channel this anger and move it in a different direction, maybe get more people mobilized to vote for the next election." We heard that over and over from people as they were walking by.
Again, about 200 protesters left. But at one point, this swelled to about 3,000 people. So, a big difference in the last few hours, Poppy?
HARLOW: Yeah. Ryan Young, thank you so much for that. Jean and Paul as well.
I want to take you also on the west coast tonight to Oakland, California, where police say about 6,000 protesters are on the streets there.
J.R. Stone is with us with us tonight with our affiliate in Oakland, KRON. J.R. what do the streets of Oakland look like this evening?
J.R. Stone, KRON ANCHOR: Well, I can tell you the message first of, from the streets of Oakland and from the protesters, is quite simply "Dump Trump!" That is a phrase that we have heard over and over again.
And you see these streets in Oakland, right now, the crowds have dissipated. But more than 6,000 people were on the streets at some point this evening.
We're talking about fires that were in the streets. And I think we have video of that as well. Now, at one point within the last 45 minutes, police actually moved in. Tear gas was used, because at one point some of the protesters began sending and throwing bottles, rocks and firecrackers towards some of these police.
I got a word a little while ago that fire actually broke out inside the Chamber of Commerce building, a small fire at that. So, certainly have had a busy night.
Multiple agencies have responded to this one. We've heard a lot of phrases out there. We've heard the quote, "Not my president." We've heard "Trump says go back, we say fight back." We've heard, "Si se puede," which means, "Yes, we can" in Spanish.
So it has been one of those nights. At one point, there were two groups within the city, they met together. But then when that tear gas was dispersed, it appeared that those numbers came down dramatically. We might be in the hundreds right now.
Now back to you, two in the studio.
HARLOW: All right. J.R. live with us. J.R. Stone in Oakland, thank you very much.
All right. Just to go through some of what he was saying, is some of what's trending tonight on social media, #notmypresident, number one on Twitter, #heisnotmypresident, number one on Twitter in the United States and around the world, and #istillwithher also trending on Twitter tonight.
Let's talk about all this with our panel. Where we go from here? Julian Zelizer's a historian and a professor of Princeton, Andre Bauer, Trump supporter and former Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina. Our CNN Political Commentators, Alice Stewart, former Communications Director for Ted Cruz, who supports Donald Trump, CNN Senior Media Correspondent, Brian Stelter, and Hilary Rosen, a Hillary Clinton supporter.
Andre, let me begin with you. Listening to Donald Trump in the wee early morning hours, he said, "I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all Americans."
Now, what should he say or do to unite the people that we just saw in these four big American cities with him?
ANDRE BAUER, FORMER SOUTH CAROLINA LEIUTENANT GOVERNOR: If I were him, I'd sit down with Bernie Sanders, and try to have a meeting and try to say what can we do to have some -- find some common ground and the first things I would pass as president would be things that unite so many of the different factions that could bring them together.
HARLOW: It's an interesting proposal. Like what?
BAUER: Infrastructure.
HARLOW: OK.
BAUER: Go after infrastructure, jobs, creating new opportunities, for employment and creating some our bridges and roads that need to be addressed. I think everybody can unite behind that. Right now, it's a cheap time to borrow money.
HARLOW: It is and I think that's a really interesting point, Alice, because the immediate thing that the most people would think of Trump is build the wall, repeal completely Obamacare, and, you know, deport millions of undocumented people in this country.
Do you agree with Andre that if he wants to be united, if he wants to be the president for all Americans, perhaps he should start with something that both sides agree on like a big infrastructure project?
ALICE STEWART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I mean, that certainly would be a good first step for sure. Because, as we're seeing a lot, especially with that in California, the big concern is what's he going to do about immigration?
We heard some them say that they're worried that their friends or family are going to be deported. That's a big concern. Others, we know, some of the protester are the LGBT community. They're concerned about what kind of appointments he'll make to the Supreme Court. But then again, he's made commitments saying he will have conservative justices in the Supreme Court.
One of the things interesting earlier, we saw one of the signs that said "They tried to keep us silent, but little did they know we were seeds." And, what they're basically trying to say is like "We have a voice, we want to speak, please listen to us."
So, maybe it's just a matter of Bernie Sanders and some of these leaders of these organizations getting them together, giving them the opportunity to say what's on their mind and let them speak.
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BRIAN SELTZER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: This is not about infrastructure on the screen. This is -
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HARLOW: But, Brian to Alice's point about, you know, we have a voice hear us. The one thing that Donald Trump has tweeted since becoming president is that those men and women who were unheard in America, and I'm paraphrasing here, has been heard.
STLELTER: Yes. The forgotten man --
HARLOW: Right.
STELTER: Forgotten woman will never be forgotten again, he said. By the way his most re-tweeted comment he's ever had. And we know he's a Twitter pro.
These people here, they are fearful. Jean was talking about hate, people hating Trump and Pence. But what I've heard walking through the streets of New York tonight was fear, fear of many different kinds.
And infrastructure spending is not going to solve that fear. This maybe the beginning of an important new left-wing movement in the U.S -
HARLOW: You said to me -
STELTER: It might not be, but this could be a new occupy?
HARLOW: You said to me, Brian -- yes, is this a new occupy. STELTER: You know, and what occupy was there was no specific agenda
to occupy. It was about being present and being seen. I do wonder if we're going to see encampments near Trump buildings that will be one to get his attention.
And he has an opportunity here if he chooses to speak right now, to talk about this, try to speak with these protesters.
HARLOW: Hilary Rosen, to you, there are pictures -- we are seeing them on our screen all throughout the evening of protesters hanging an effigy of the president-elect in front of Trump tower, one of the - those actually, is this hanging model of Trump above a sign that says "Love Trumps Hate."
Clinton called for unity today. Her words were that Americans owe Donald Trump, quoted, "Open mind and a chance to lead." What do you want to see tonight as a Clinton supporter?
HILARY ROSEN, POLITICAL CONSULTANT: Well, I guess, I know what I'd like to see but I don't expect much. I think that, you know, Trump has never been particularly open and interested in protesters. So, I can imagine he will be this time again.
We've seen the most aggressive actions against the protesters in New York City, right in front of Trump Tower where, you know, you can see now the police force of hundreds of New York City cops going in there to clear the streets.
So, I don't think he particularly is interested in these voices, but what I guess I would hope his supporters here is real fear among people about what he does with the social compact that many people feel like that the U.S. has turned into this coalition of minorities and women looking for a recognition of equality.
And I think what's happened is that the effort that he has made has kind of conflated into an economic protest, an economic agenda. And I do agree with Brian that I don't think those two things are going to collapse very easily together.
I don't - I don't think Bernie Sanders is the leader, Andre, of the community that doesn't want to be assured that they're not going to be deported, that they're going to want to feel that the Supreme Court will continue to recognize their rights. That's - it's not - that's not it.
I think you will see President Obama be more aggressive in that area. But I think that -- look, Donald Trump has already said he's going to erase, you know, President Obama's executive orders on deportation, and that is scary to families.
Yes, he doesn't - he's not an antigay person I believe as people think that. I haven't seen that. But he's promised to appoint Supreme Court justices that are anti-gay and have a proven record of it.
So, you know, I think the problem now is that we've empowered in this election and he will empower a very, very conservative congress who will be in charge.
Mitch McConnell today has already (INAUDIBLE) you know, Donald Trump's "drain the swamp" agenda. He's not moving term limits. He's not going to create restrictions on lobbying on former federal officials. They've already said sorry. That agenda is not happening. We are now in charge and we're going to go to pass our economic agenda.
HARLOW: Julian Zelizer, to you, Hilary brings up a really interesting and important point. Is there going to be a difference between rhetoric and reality? The rhetoric of the campaign, the reality of the governing.
How will Donald Trump actually govern? Will he actually carry through on all of the very drastic measures that he has put forward, which by the way, much of the country supports and made that very, very clear.
This is we're seeing democracy play out in the streets of America tonight. You're looking at pictures from earlier in New York City. And right now, those are live pictures from the streets of Los Angeles tonight where it's just past 10:00 in the evening.
Julian Zelizer, to you, you wrote about this today and you said what Trump taught us is that you need to speak directly to the people. He did that in his massive rallies, he did that on Twitter. How does this change American politics going forward? What are the lessons from history that were missed here?
JULIAN ZELIZER, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR: Well, he's obviously broken some of the traditional forms of communication and opened new ones. And I think you can make comparisons with FDR and "Fireside chats," or the way that Newt Gingrich used television and cable television to communicate directly.
He has some of that. I don't know how he will use it in the governing process. The governing process is very different than the campaign. It requires different kinds of rhetoric. It requires different kinds of negotiations, and there'll be new kinds of restraints imposed on him.
What he has, though, is a united congress. And so, the incentives will not be toward bipartisanship. The incentives will not be to work with Bernie Sanders, in my opinion. The incentives will be to please a republican majority that's very conservative and that now sees an opportunity to do what Obama did in 2009 and 2010.
And the protests, I don't know how long these will last. And the only issue so far, is Electoral College reform that I've actually heard people talking about. I don't think that's going to go very far.
HARLOW: You know what's interesting in 2012 after Mitt Romney lost, Trump said that the Electoral College was, quote, "A disaster for a democracy." The final vote tally isn't in, but right now, Hillary Clinton, Alice, is leading when it comes in the popular vote.
If that continues, he will have only won, because of an institution that he called the disaster for democracy. STEWART: That has been around since our founding fathers put it in
the constitution. Right now, you're correct. Hillary is about 0.2 percent ahead in the popular vote. Obviously, Trump won the Electoral College.
And here's the thing, this is what are -- the way our founding fathers wanted to do it. It's kind of a compromise in electing the president by having the will of the electorate along with the popular vote of the people in order to elect our president, and has worked fine for all these years.
A similar situation, as we all know, in 2000 as we had Al Gore winning the popular vote, and yet Bush winning the Electoral College.
We didn't see this type of activity but there are going to be flaws with all aspects of this. But it's part of this process and has worked well for many years. And I don't see - I don't see any changes.
HARLOW: My panel will be with me throughout the next two hours, stay with me. But before I go to break, and just look at what you're seeing play out in your screen. This is live footage from the streets of Los Angeles tonight. Chanting, burning some Trump - you know, burning effigies of the president-elect. You see, tossing around like a pinata. Profanity written on some of the signs here, people voicing their displeasure with what has happened through, you know, the process that this country goes by.
Much more of this ahead, Donald Trump spent the past year slamming President Obama. Later today, these two men will meet together at the White House to talk about that peaceful transfer of power.
We will look at this extraordinary meeting that is ahead. Also, could Rudy Giuliani be the next Attorney General? What about Newt Gingrich as the next Secretary of State? New details about what's a Trump administration could look like.
An election night triggered a wild ride for world financial markets. We will look ahead at what this all means for global exchanges.
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HARLOW: We are following mass protests spreading through the country tonight. You're looking at live pictures this evening from Los Angeles as where Paul Vercammen is.
And, Paul obviously a very big group gathered where you are. Where exactly are these protesters tonight?
VERCAMMEN: OK. I'll set the scene for you, Poppy. It's a little hectic. This is literally L.A. City Hall, and they are on the steps of city hall, and they set up here quite a few different protests merged throughout the course of the night. And since you even were speaking with me, it seems like it grew to
another - oh, I'd say maybe 1000, 1200 protesters. You can see they are not only on the steps of city hall, but there's one protester who climbed on top of this light signal, and he's holding up what is a comment sentiment here which is, "Not my president."
We've heard that said and chanted over and over tonight. And also, right in front of me, they are chanting, "Not my president." It has been a peaceful protest. We've not seen any fights or any arrests and the Los Angeles Police Department has taken a rather -- we'll call it California laid-back approach. They're letting the protesters do what they want, and not interfering for the most part.
They have shut down this street right in front of city hall and they shut down other streets, and some of the traffic tonight. And again, I'll just let you listen to them chant for a moment here, Poppy.
CROWD: "Not my president!" "Not my president!" "Not my president!" "Not my president!" "Not my president!" "Not my president!"
VERCAMMEN: All right, Poppy, you can try to venture a question at me. I'll not guarantee you that I'll be able to hear it. But as I said before it has been peaceful here on the streets of Los Angeles.
I'm going to toss it back to you before this gets out of hand.
HARLOW: All right, Paul Vercammen. Thank you very much. On the other side of your screen, you're looking at other live pictures. Guys, let's put that back up.
Out of Los Angeles tonight, there you see on the other side of your screen from where Paul Vercammen is, looks like a number of protesters going into the highway there. That shot from the helicopter of KCAL and KCBS. Not sure what highway it is. We'll get more information for you as soon as we can.
As we watch all of this unfold across the country tonight, we remember what President Obama said yesterday in the Rose Garden, quote, "No matter what happens, the sun will rise." And today when the sun comes up, we're going to get our first pictures of Donald Trump at his future home at the White House. He will be there today to meet with President Obama.
Let's bring in Sunlen Serfaty, she's in Washington, where this extraordinary meeting will happen just hours from now.
Sunlen, what have we learned about what the president will say. Because when you think about this, it is - it is extraordinary to think that the president, sitting president will share the Oval Office with the president-elect, the man who has made much of his political brand by questioning whether the current president, President Obama was born in the United States.
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's absolutely right, Poppy. To say they have had a rocky relationship would just be an understatement. Not only because of Donald Trump's role in the birther movement. But keep in mind, President Obama has been one of Donald Trump's chief critics over the last year as well.
This will be the first real meeting that the two will actually have. Last time they were in a room together was three years ago at the White House Correspondent's dinner.
You remember then, President Obama took aim at Donald Trump from the podium and made him the brunt of a joke. That said, White House officials admit that this is going to be a challenging meeting for him.
They say it won't be an easy meeting. But they he - President Obama is very sincere about making sure this is a smooth transition of power and that in a large part starts today with the tone of their meeting.
Something that President Obama spoke briefly about yesterday in the Rose Garden.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Now, it is no secret that the president-elect and I have some pretty significant differences. But remember, eight years ago, President Bush and I had significant differences. But President Bush's team could not have been more professional or more gracious in making sure we had a smooth transition so that we could hit the ground running.
And one thing you realize quickly in this job is that the presidency and vice presidency is bigger than any of us.
I have instructed my team to follow the example that President Bush's team set eight years ago and work as hard as we can to make sure that this is a successful transition for the president-elect.
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SERFATY: Melania Trump will also be meeting with first lady, Michelle Obama in the White House residence. That's a private meeting.
And Trump and Pence here in DC today will have a slew of other meetings as well.
Pence will meet with Vice President Biden. He'll also sit down with congressional leadership.
An interesting schedule later in the day, Trump and Pence later this afternoon, Poppy, will meet with Paul Ryan.
So, a slew of very important meetings. Transition starting right now.
[01:30:00] HARLOW: Now, we heard the words from Paul Ryan today, basically saying that Donald Trump pulled off the most stunning political defeat he has ever witnessed and talked about how much they will get done together with the president-elect. Before I let you go, Donald Trump now as president-elect is getting
daily briefings of the country's most important intelligence. What can you tell us?
SERFATY: This is what President Obama announced that he would extend the same presidential daily briefings to Donald Trump. This is something that starts the president's day every morning. Oftentimes, you see the vice president there as well, giving them a rundown of intelligence, national security issues. So, if he wants those daily briefings, the White House is making those available to him.
HARLOW: Sunlen, live for us in D.C., thank you so much.
And just for our viewers, again this is the 101. This is a major thoroughfare in Los Angeles. Part of it appearing to be -- from my vantage point -- shut down by protesters tonight. It is 10:30 p.m. Live in Los Angeles. This is the 101. A major highway in Los Angeles blocked by protesters tonight.
Donald Trump is not turning to the same crowd of Washington insiders, it appears, to help him make cabinet selections. Instead, Trump, a billionaire businessman, may look to the private sector and may go to established politicians to fill others.
Let's bring back Andre Bauer and Alice Stewart.
Thank you, guys.
Transition happens immediately. There is a lot of work to do in the next 70 days.
Andre, let's talk about the position of treasury secretary. When you look at the names out there, Carl Icahn. Do you think those are likely treasury secretary names?
ANDRE BAUER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It's hard to for them to take the pay cut but I hope they will see an opportunity to make their country greater, stronger, and better and they will answer the call for their country.
HARLOW: I think Carl Icahn has said he is not interested but who do you think makes sense for their spot? Here you have a billionaire businessman, who does he think would be better than him for treasure secretary.
ALICE STEWART, CNN POLTICAL COMMENTATOR: I'm hearing from different circles. I think that -- has an interest, himself and would do a great job. It's good to have people who have experience in the private sector whether we're talking about Department of Defense or surgeon general for the people to have real world experience.
HARLOW: You ran Ted Cruz's communications. There was no love lost between the two for a while. Would he want any sort of roll in a Trump administration at any point in time?
STEWART: There's talk for a little white while. Ted is an attorney and there was talk of some kind of appointment. But Ted loves what he is doing being a senator in Texas. And he loves serving the people of Texas. Who knows what the plan is come 20. But one of the things that Ted is committed to doing is he has had conversations with Donald Trump and expressed his interesting in making sure that he does appoint conservatives to that position and he suggested Mike Lee from Utah.
HARLOW: One of the two lists that Trump has put forward as potential justices.
"The Daily Beast" out with a report tonight. Team Trump didn't expect to win until the polling a month before the election signaled a possible victory and now they are scrambling to fill senior-level national security jobs because so many Republicans swore they'd never work for Trump.
Keep this in mind. There was a letter from former national security leaders, Republicans vowing never to support or work with Donald Trump. And Michael Hayden called Trump a tool of the Russian government a few weeks ago.
Andre, how does Trump take those strained relations and work with people in the intelligence community? I mean, you have Amarosa, a former contestant and supporter of his, that he is keeping a long list of enemies. If he does that there's is no progress from doing that.
BAUER: I think the fewer media he's around -- Newt Gingrich, he is a level-headed guy who will work with him. He's a level-headed guy and will work with him and show him how to get done.
And switching gears and meeting with the president tomorrow, I thought back to when President Obama and Hillary Clinton had a divisive primary. And President Obama, the faults I have with him, I do admire him in certain ways. And I think he'll heal that breech -
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BAUER: -- quickly as well.
HARLOW: That 2008 heated primary was not to the level this general election was.
BAUER: You go back to South Carolina, my home state, and it got very, very personal and nasty.
HARLOW: Do you think it is --
BAUER: Yes, because Hillary Clinton's folks did in the primary before Donald Trump touched it.
HARLOW: We're not going to re-litigate that --
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BAUER: I remember that. But nonetheless, I think he was humble and bridged that, as he will with Donald Trump. HARLOW: What about for attorney general because here you have Rudy
Giuliani, former New York mayor, huge surrogate for him, and Chris Christie, also an attorney, the first one, the first person of the 17 Republicans who were running to come and support Trump.
STEWART: He was stellar out there early on. More and more I'm hearing Rudy Giuliani. I think that would be a great way to go with his experience and New York embraced him after 9/11. He can bring people together and he has a great legal mind.
Chris Christie, I think he's phenomenal, he will have issues,
HARLOW: Bridgegate.
STEWART: Bridgegate on its way. To the point of all these military people who came out and not supportive, Donald Trump has Michael Flynn, who is on board, and I think -
HARLOW: He was in the running for the V.P. slot.
STEWART: I think there's a position for him at a high level. And what Trump did, I think phenomenally, he had a lot of members in Congress throughout the primary that were not with him and not supportive, so what did he do? He got Mike Pence, who is beloved, and great at bringing people together -
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STEWART: -- to go out -- he got to bring people in. And I think Mike Flynn can do that with military people.
HARLOW: Secretary of state?
BAUER: Newt Gingrich.
HARLOW: No question?
I haven't heard any women named.
STEWART: I haven't either.
HARLOW: Alice, when you look at the trouble Donald Trump has had with women in terms of what he has said, et cetera, it didn't play out in the voting. White women went for Trump by about 10 points but we are in 2016. Should there be women in his cabinet?
STEWART: Absolutely. And there should be more African-Americans. There was one list where we saw Ben Carson. He would be phenomenal at some high-level positions. But there needs to be -- some of the names coming to the surface are just folks that are top of the mind. But I'm confident he is going to bring women into the top-level positions, African-Americans and Hispanics and all types of people to bring in different mind sets.
Another person being talked about for some position is Reince Priebus. HARLOW: He was very, you know - he was very celebratory of the job
Reince Priebus did in his remarks last night. So much that he brought him to the podium to speak. Right?
STEWART: Right.
HARLOW: Thank you very much.
BAUER: And Mary Fallin, governor of Oklahoma, I'd love to see her in the cabinet.
HARLOW: All right, guys, thank you very much.
Again, you're looking at live protests out of Los Angeles tonight and Portland, Oregon.
We are going the take a quick break. We'll be back in a moment.
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[01:42:21] HARLOW: You're looking at live pictures out of Los Angeles. Protests throughout the country in seven different cities reacting to the election.
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HARLOW: You can hear the protesters in Dallas chanting earlier "not my president." Dallas is not alone. We have seen protests in New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Boston. Thousands of people on the streets of those cities tonight. In New York, protesters burnt an effigy of the future president there. At least 15 people have been arrested.
Here in New York, let's talk about this. With me, CNN senior media correspondent, host of "Reliable Sources," Brian Seltzer; and CNN political commentator, and former Mitt Romney campaign policy director, Lanhee Chen.
Brian, one thing you said that struck me earlier was that this is the only side we're seeing, people that protest the free and fair election of Donald Trump. As the next president. We're not seeing the other half of the country who supported him, the more than 40 million people that supported him.
BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORESONDENT & CNN HOST, RELIABLE SOURCES: This is a hopeful day for roughly half of the country. 50percent or the 25percent who explicitly voted for Trump. This is a joyous and hopeful and optimistic day. But there are not parties and celebrations going on for the most part. We have not seen the excitement. What we are seeing is this spontaneous protest. Small towns and big cities. And in liberal areas with a few exceptions. It was notable to see a protest in Dallas this evening. And concentrate on the west coast where last night in Oakland as the votes were being counted we were seeing street fires. Oakland is famous for its liberal protesting. But to see it in New York and Chicago --
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HARLOW: Stay with me.
Let's just dip in as we keep talking. These are live pictures. This the 101 in Los Angeles. These are live pictures from the chopper of KCBS. And what it looks like is protesters you know, blocking off part of the 101.
Let's listen in to the local broadcast.
[01:44:51] UNIDENTIFIED KCBS REPORTER: -- the perimeter and they're going to closing in. I would be telling you that. Right now, all I'm hearing his they are trying to get their guys out here in number and trying to lock it down because they know if they approach from one direction this crowd will run the other. They need to have the officers in those areas as well. This crowd right here is the one they are looking at. They want to bring officers down from LAPD to join the officers on the freeway.
What this is all about? They don't like Trump. You know, and this is something that they should have taken care of in the Democratic process earlier on. But you know, we -- this is south Los Angeles and we do our things the way we do things out here.
And right now, LAPD has been very lenient with the situation. Very hands off. And allowing the -- these protesters, their Second Amendment (sic) to speak what they want to do and say what they want to say and take over streets. They have been out here in numbers.
But right now, when you start shutting down the traffic and start getting civilians in harm's way. Officers in harm's way out there, nobody has been injured yet. But nevertheless, it's basically -- I believe this crowd crossed the line. We have been hearing Tom talk about it. It must have been an experience, in itself, to be out there. Amazing that no one has been trampled.
Right now, the crowd that was huge on the freeway not so big. It is split up. Officers from the California Highway Patrol, LAPD are out here right now. We are trying to figure out what their plan is. They wanted to stop the movement of the group. They have done that. That's for sure. The small group just sitting right there. Like -- you know, not moving, sitting on the roadway, holding up their signs. Officers from the LAPD at this location. The highway patrol to the north. And a group of officers right there basically formulating a plan. I believe that battalion will be used where need. Right now, though, it is more of a waiting game. Almost like chess. You're positioning your pieces on the board trying to get in a way where you might be able to corral this huge crowd that has been so unruly out here in the Los Angeles area.
HARLOW: You were just listening in to our KCBS there. Looking at live pictures of the 101 shut down in Los Angeles. And this part is near downtown L.A., a major thoroughfare.
Let me bring in back my panel. Brian Stelter is with, senior media correspondent; Symone Sanders, who used to run communications for Bernie Sanders and now a Hillary Clinton supporter; and also in California, Lanhee Chen, who used to run policy for Mitt Romney.
Symone, you wrote about this today and Millennial engagement. Many of the voices on the streets tonight are young voices. What should they hear from Donald Trump? What would you like to hear Donald Trump say as our next president?
SYMONE SANDERS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think that he should say I'm sorry, to sway let's come together, and then give us his plan. President Obama is the president of the United States. It's his job to call for we need to come together and do this. For Hillary Clinton, it's her job. For Donald Trump, it's his job. For Sanders, it's his job to do this. For young people, we don't need to stand up and call for calm. Calm isn't how we got here, to be frank. So, I think what we need to hear is a plan, policy plans so we can begin to hold him accountable. Regardless on November 9th, young people need to have a plan. If it was Secretary Clinton, the plan would look different. But engagement and how you work with the next administration and Congress is pivotal. They can't govern, the next Congress can't govern without black people and Latinos and native Americans and Hispanics or without young people. And as you can see on the streets. And I'm feeling it right now.
HARLOW: Hilary Rosen to you in Washington. As a Hillary Clinton supporter who in the Democratic party can reach out to the protesters right now and convey to them the same message that we heard on Wednesday from both President Obama and from Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton's words were, "We owe it to Donald Trump to give him a chance."
HILLARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I don't think it's Hillary Clinton's responsibility to make people -- to not fear whether or not they're going to be deported. That's Donald Trump's responsibility.
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[01:50:12] HARLOW: Right. I guess I'm asking is there anyone in the Democratic party who you think could help as well?
ROSEN: Yes, I think the signals that Donald Trump sends, Symone is right. The signals in the next couple days will go a long way to determining whether or not people feel like this -- they need to be afraid. I mean, that's what this is about. People are worried about a rise in racism and deportations and a Supreme Court that's going to send us back afterwards and they don't know how to manage that. I think that President Obama is going to be thoughtful and work with law enforcement to make sure that people aren't hurt.
But Donald Trump is going to have to make some of these decisions. If he puts in Rudy Giuliani as the attorney general, you know, or tries to get him confirmed, that's going to inflame this more. This is a guy who laughed at sexual assault charges and talked about deportation as the best thing for dealing with an immigration problem. Much of what he does over the next couple of days is going to be the strong signal to protesters and, frankly, Hillary Clinton supporters across the country as to whether he wants a united American or whether he is going to continue a divide.
HARLOW: Stay with me, guys.
Let's listen to the affiliate in Los Angeles. See what they are describing on the 101 in L.A.
UNIDENTIFIED KCBS REPORTER: You know, at some point they have to make sure that people's safety isn't in danger. That's what was happening when people got on the freeway.
As we mentioned, people got on the freeway earlier this evening on the 110. Northbound and southbound lanes. That was stopped by CHP. Then they got back on the streets of downtown Los Angeles. And then on the 101 in alameda, being affected this evening. Knocking over barrels of sand. People having confrontation in vehicles. It's a dangerous situation especially with so many people trying to get through and you have the protesters who you don't know what is going to happen with them or what kind of mentality that they have. And you want to think they're going to protest peacefully and this happens.
UNIDENTIFIED KCBS REPORTER: That is no longer the case in downtown L.A. Social media is such a big part of our news gathering now. The election as well
This is from Matthew Barber. He says, "The nightmare has begun, #notourpresident." I don't know what that means exactly. Maybe they say this is going to be extended protests as we head into the inauguration of the new president, Donald Trump. I mean, that's just a few weeks away.
HARLOW: Back with me is the panel, as you look at live pictures of the 101, part shut down near Los Angeles.
Brian Stelter is with me.
Your thoughts?
STELTER: We need to recognize the context for these young protesters who are taking to the streets here in L.A. And in other cities. President Obama said to the country, the fate of the republic rests on your shoulders. President Obama, Hillary Clinton, other Democratic leaders made this about the future of the nation. They made it about the fate of the republic. Donald Trump's words and actions are what caused them to do so. But the stakes were risen so high.
They did. And Josh Earnest said the president's words stand. It's an important point that you make.
STELTER: We can understand why these people speak out. I saw a sign in New York that said, "I'm just sad." But there are more passionate emotions out there. HARLOW: And there are a lot of people who are happy with this outcome
and that is not playing out on the streets tonight but it is half of this country.
Reaction to Trump's victory has been coming from around the world.
With me Rafael Roma, CNN senior Latin affairs correspondent; and CNN international anchor, Andrew Stevens, with us, also Nic Robertson is with us tonight in the Middle East; and Andrew Stevens there in Asia -- Rafael?
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN SENIOR LATIN AMERICA CORRESPONDENT: There has been all kinds of reaction in Mexico. Newspapers in Mexico City didn't mince any words. One newspaper used a four-letter word in English to describe what the election means to Mexico. Another says global uncertainty. But the president struck a more, conciliatory tone saying that Mexico and the U.S. Are friends and partners and allies. But Enrique Nieto has agreed to a meeting with Trump during this period. He stuck a conciliatory tone, saying the U.S. and Mexico are partners and allies. On the other hand, Vicente Fox told CNN he was shocked by the news and referred to the issue of the wall and said that Mexico will never pay for the expletive wall. Mexico and the U.S. are joined at the hip in terms of trade. There is $583 billion traded every year between the two countries.
[01:55:51] HARLOW: Rafael, thank you very much.
Matthew Chance is with us from Russia.
Vladimir Putin was among the first leaders around the world to congratulate Donald Trump. Donald Trump for his part has said wouldn't it be a good thing if the United States and Russia got along? Now he is the president-elect. What is the reaction on the streets of Moscow tonight assuming they are celebrating what could possibly be some sanctions lifted under the next president to help boost their economy?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRSPONDENT: Yeah, well, obviously, this is a potentially pivotal moment between Russia and the United States. They have been at a low ebb over the last couple of years. We have been talking about a new cold war. Donald Trump potentially changes all of that. The supposed promance between him and Vladimir Putin was a big issue in the election campaign. They complimented each other. Trump described Putin as a strong leader. And so, you've got the basis, for some kind of closer and warmer relationship than existed between Obama and Putin. There is a big opportunity here for that relationship to be built. But there is the shadow over all that Russia may have been trying to damage the campaign.
HARLOW: Matthew Chance, in Moscow, thank you very much.
Nic Robertson is in Irbil, Iraq.
When Trump becomes the commander-in-chief, he will not only inherit the fight against ISIS, but he is getting these intelligence briefings on the continuing fight against ISIS. What has the reaction been in the Middle East?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: No previous president has come into a situation in the Middle East where the situation, the region is so chaotic and dangerous. The United States allies' relationships are a house of cards built on sand. There is support for his willingness to take ISIS head on. He has had messages from the prime minister of Iraq and the president of the Kurdish region here. But there is concern about what Donald Trump has had to say about Muslims. Concern that Donald Trump has said perhaps he'll hand off tackling of Syria to Russia. That would be putting the United States behind Iran. That would deeply trouble the United States allies in the region, their Sunni allies, like Saudi Arabia. This region is a tinderbox. Pulling any card in that deck is deeply problematic. Not touching a card allows your enemies to gain strength over the United States - Poppy?
HARLOW: Nic Robertson live for us tonight in Irbil. Thank you, Nic.
And now to Andrew Stevens in Asia.
Andrew, stocks in Asia took a beating. The Nikkei down 5percent. And some recovery now today, right?
ANDREW STEVENS, CNN ASIA-PACIFIC EDITOR: That's right, Poppy. It's been a whiplash revision of Donald Trump's economic policies, which means higher growth and higher inflation. That's been picked up across Asia. Japan up 6 percent. Hong Kong up 3 percent. Australia up 3 percent. So, there's been a positive reaction after that big sell off yesterday after a stronger rally on Wall Street. But there is also concerns across Asia about if Donald Trump continues to pivot to Asia that has been started by Obama -- Poppy.
HARLOW: Thank you very much, Andrew Stevens, in Shenzhen, China for us. And also, Rafael Romo, Matthew Chance and Nic Robertson, for the world
reaction tonight.
Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. It's the top of the hour. 2:00 a.m. eastern time here in New York City. I'm live in New York.
