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California Manhunt; John Brennan Faces Congress
Aired February 07, 2013 - 18:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Happening now, a cop killer at large. Police across California are hunting down one of their own. There's now a CNN, a CNN connection to this story.
A region terrified by a shooting rampage. We have insights from the top cop during an infamous killing spree here in the Washington, D.C. area.
The president's choice to head the CIA is grilled about his role in some of the most extreme and deadly tactics in the war on terror.
And the Northeast bracing, bracing for a repeat of one of the worst blizzards in memory.
I'm Wolf Blitzer. You're in THE SITUATION ROOM.
Every hour, the manhunt for an alleged cop killer is growing more intense and more dangerous. The suspect is a fired Los Angeles police officer, with military training, accused of declaring a deadly war of revenge against the LAPD.
Law enforcement officials now are on high alert across the entire state, as this manhunt plays out.
It now turns out that the suspect, Christopher Jordan Dorner, reached out to CNN.
First, let's get the latest from CNN's Kyung Lah. She's in Corona, California.
What is the latest, Kyung?
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Wolf, you can definitely see that officers here are on high alert at a couple of different places. The police here are carrying semiautomatic rifles. At the L.A. Police Department, as the chief held their news conference, there were also semiautomatic rifles visible there, a show of force, because the police believe that this man will strike and will keep striking unless he's stopped.
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LAH (voice-over): The murder spree began on Sunday with the double killing of a newly engaged couple, Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence, Quan, the daughter of a retired LAPD captain, the officer who represented Christopher Dorner in front of the police board that eventually fired him.
Dorner refers to Quan's murder in his manifesto, where he also writes: "I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own. I'm terminating yours. Self-preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death, as I died long ago on January 2 of '09," a date just a few months after Dorner was fired as a police officer.
The LAPD fanned out, launching 40 protection details throughout Southern California.
CHARLIE BECK, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, POLICE CHIEF: LAPD is the specific target, but all law enforcement is targeted. This is a vendetta against all of Southern California law enforcement.
LAH: Three days later, Wednesday, in San Diego, the LAPD says Dorner attempted to hijack a boat, an attempt that failed. Then, early this morning, an eyewitness saw Dorner's vehicle an hour southeast of Los Angeles. Police are assigned on protective detail for people mentioned in the manifesto engaged Dorner.
SGT. RUDY LOPEZ, LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT: They identify the vehicle. They start to follow that vehicle. And within two exits, that suspect gets off the freeway at Magnolia and our officers are in proximity. As soon as they turn the right turn, the suspect is already out of the vehicle engaging them with gunfire.
LAH: One officer grazed in the head, unable to capture him. A short time later, another shooting in nearby Riverside, two unsuspecting Riverside police officers fired upon in what police call a cowardly ambush, one seriously hurt, the other killed.
BECK: The city mourns the deaths of Monica Quan, Keith Lawrence, and our brave Riverside police officer. I also feel a great sadness for the injuries suffered by my officer, the second Riverside officer, and the two uninvolved citizens in Torrance.
LAH: Torrance was the location of yet another shooting this morning, but not by Dorner.
The people inside this blue truck, similar in description to Dorner's vehicle, were delivering morning newspapers. Officers opened fire, injuring the two inside, a sad case of mistaken identity.
A city reacting to the fear of a trained, enraged killer on the loose. As he writes in his manifesto, "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR" -- referring to his law enforcement training -- "is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey."
BECK: I would tell him to turn himself in. This has gone far enough. Nobody else needs to die.
(END VIDEOTAPE) LAH: Now, this manhunt vigorous, ongoing, and officers may be getting a little closer in the Big Bear area. It's a resort area, police have found a burned-out car that does match the description of the vehicle that Dorner was driving -- Wolf.
BLITZER: Kyung Lah with the latest from there, thank you, Kyung
Let's go to Riverside, California, right now. That's just east of Los Angeles, where two officers were ambushed in their patrol car overnight. One of them is dead.
CNN's Paul Vercammen is joining us from the scene.
What's the latest there, Paul?
PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN SENIOR PRODUCER: Well, the other officer shot here in Riverside, Wolf, is in stable condition at a local hospital, and police here are still hyper-vigilant, concerned that perhaps the suspect might try to return to this area.
However, as Kyung pointed out, leads seem to be pointing to Big Bear right now. That's about an hour and 10 minutes away, 70 miles away in the mountains. Sources have told us that the pickup truck in the Big Bear area that was seen burning does match the description of the suspect's vehicle.
We also know there was a school district in the Big Bear area that had school canceled today because of -- quote -- what it called an "investigation." No further details given. In the end, they say they will eventually catch this man. That's according to police here in Riverside. Let's give a listen.
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SERGIO DIAZ, RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA, POLICE CHIEF: We're going to find him. You can't have this many people looking for you and not be found. Obviously, if he's secreted himself, that would be that would be an additional complication, but he will be found.
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VERCAMMEN: And it is now a multi-agency search, spread out throughout Southern California, dozens of law enforcement agencies involved in this search now, Wolf.
BLITZER: Paul Vercammen on the scene for us, thanks very much.
By the way, later this hour, we will speak live with the Riverside, California, police chief. I will get the latest from him.
Let's bring in Kate Bolduan here. She's watching some other important stories, much more on this L.A. story coming up.
But there's a blizzard that's in the works right now?
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, we will continue, obviously, to stay very close to this story, happening out in California, but here in the Northeast, a huge story, as so many in the Northeast are bracing for a huge snowstorm.
The Northeast is on emergency alert. You can absolutely image. It could look like snowmageddon once again, even worse very soon. United Airlines just canceled 900 flights to the region tomorrow. That's just one airline, by the way. Forecasters are warning of two feet of snow in New York and more than three feet in Boston.
CNN's Jason Carroll is in Boston.
Jason, I can only imagine that they are preparing to batten down the hatches.
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. Get ready, here it comes, Kate.
Behind me, one of the snowplows. There are thousands of plows like this that are on the ready, ready for the state to put to use. And take a look at this. There are hundreds of locations like this, all across the state, 10,000 tons of a salt and sand mixture ready to be used, ready to hit the streets. The blizzard now less than 12 hours away.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can't stress this enough. This looks, looks like it's going to be a really big storm.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the real deal.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two storm systems making their way across the country will merge, bringing to us what could be the biggest storm of the season.
CARROLL (voice-over): The warnings are sobering, potentially historic winter storm set to slam the Northeast.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This will not be a six- or seven-hour storm. This looks to be a drawn-out storm, 24 hours of snow.
CARROLL: Meteorologists predict snowfall in some areas could reach two-and-a-half feet or more. In Boston, travelers are rushing to get out of Logan Airport before the storm heads in.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're flying out tomorrow afternoon, and I just scrambled yesterday morning and changed everything up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's going to be crazy later, I bet. I'm glad that it's calm right now.
CARROLL: The nor'easter already being compared to the great blizzard of 1978, which left thousands stranded on highways here. This time, state and local officials cautioning people to stay home and keep roads clear.
THOMAS MENINO (D), MAYOR OF BOSTON: This is a very serious storm.
CARROLL: Boston's mayor says a snow emergency goes into effect noon Friday. All schools will be closed. Nonessential government personnel urged to stay home.
MENINO: We're hardened New Englanders, let me tell you, and used to these type of storms. But I also want to remind everyone to use common sense.
CARROLL: The Massachusetts Department of Transportation will have more than 600 ice and snow removal trucks manning the streets, 4,500 extra plows on the ready.
FRANK DEPAOLA, MASSACHUSETTS DOT: We have made sure our salt stockpiles are full. Beginning early Friday morning, we will start running round-the-clock snow and ice operations.
CARROLL: Other possible concerns, storm surges and high wind gusts. Ace Hardware in Boston seeing brisk business from those heeding the warnings.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're out there doing the plow and everything. We're excited. OK. And then you have got the ones that go, oh.
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CARROLL: And the governor, Kate, holding a press conference just about a half-hour ago, once again warning people to stay off the roads, thereby allowing emergency crews to get through. The only thing to do now is just brace ourselves for what could be an historically devastating blizzard -- Kate.
BOLDUAN: Any time we hear two to three inches of snow per hour, you have got to get ready. Jason Carroll, thanks so much. We will be staying close to this story.
We are looking, also, at Christopher Jordan Dorner's Facebook page, more on that for clues about him and his manifesto against police. We will also be talking to Anderson Cooper, who received a package from the alleged gunman.
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BLITZER: Let's get back to our top story this hour, another surprising twist in the investigation of the suspected cop killer out in California.
Anderson Cooper is joining us now with more on this part of the story.
And this is very, very bizarre, Anderson.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, it certainly is.
Actually, I learned today, just today, that the suspect, Christopher Dorner, mailed me a parcel at my office here at CNN in New York. Apparently, the package arrived on the 1st of February. It was not opened by me. I did not know of its existence until today.
Inside the package was a hand-labeled DVD with a yellow Post-it note reading in part -- quote -- "I never lied," apparently in reference to his dismissal from the LAPD in 2008. Now, what you're seeing on the screen is a coin that was also in the package. It was wrapped in duct tape. The tape bears the handwritten inscription, "Thanks, but no thanks, Will Bratton," who is the former LAPD chief.
The coin, as you see it right there, is a souvenir medallion, the kind that is often handed out as sort of a keepsake. This one, though, as you see, was shot through with a number of bullet holes, three bullet holes to the center, another shot nicked off at the top of it. The staff -- my staff at "360" and CNN management and myself were made aware of this package just today, and upon, obviously, learning of its existence, we alerted Mr. Bratton and law enforcement.
So, that's what we know, Wolf. We are going to have more about it tonight on 360.
BLITZER: He does make a reference in that manifesto, Anderson, as you know, not only to you, but also to me and other journalists as well.
COOPER: Yes, he did.
He had some comments about me and had some advice for my interviewing style, I believe. But it's a very strange thing. And obviously, when I -- I just, frankly, learned about this contact he attempted to make just several hours ago. So we're trying to give you the information as we're figuring it out as well.
BLITZER: Yes, he's praiseworthy of you, praiseworthy of me and a few other journalists, saying we're part of that Walter Cronkite tradition, that from him.
All right, Anderson, I know you are going to have more coming up 8:00 p.m. Eastern on "A.C. 360."
We want to continue our coverage, though. We're following this huge manhunt across California for an alleged cop killer who's also a former police officer himself. An officer was killed earlier today in the city of Riverside, California.
BOLDUAN: And joining us now for the latest details, Riverside Mayor Rusty Bailey, as well as a police chief in Riverside, Sergio Diaz.
Gentleman, it's been a very busy day for you. Thank you so much for joining us.
BLITZER: And let me begin the questioning, gentleman. Thanks very much.
First of all, our condolences for two of your police officers who were shot in that ambush. We're really sorry, obviously, for the loss. But what can you tell us about that deadly, deadly confrontation?
RUSTY BAILEY, MAYOR OF RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA: Well, first and foremost, the city of Riverside's heart pours out and our prayers are lifted up for the officers involved and their families. And so we will continue to support them and the city will continue to support the police chief and all law enforcement in our efforts to bring this subject to apprehension and to justice.
DIAZ: Thank you.
You know, the most noteworthy thing about this incident is that the officers were not involved in any enforcement activity. They hadn't stopped this gentleman. They were stopped at a red light and so was he on the opposite side of the street. And he sought them out to ambush them, to kill them, without warning, without justification for no reason at all.
And that is consistent with what we know that he wrote, essentially, saying that all police officers on duty and off duty were fair game, and as were the families.
BOLDUAN: So, clearly, gentleman, the hunt is on. What can you tell us about where the leads are in terms of where he could be? Do you think he could possibly still be in Riverside? Should the community of Riverside still be concerned?
BAILEY: The city is safe and secure, and to the good work of our Riverside Police Department and their selfless service, continued selfless service, and all law enforcement across Southern California. We thank them for their efforts to keep us, our residents safe and secure. The Riverside way is to lead by example and take care of your troops. We will continue to do that here in Riverside and across the Southland.
DIAZ: I want to emphasize that there is no connection to our city that we have been able to discern by reading the writings or through the investigation. We think that it's hard to know without interviewing this gentleman, but we think that he came upon randomly these two officers.
And the last time he was seen in our city was as he fled from that scene where he attacked the officers. So, we're not currently actively looking for him within our city. We're hoping that he is found today and that we can arrest him and bring him to justice today.
BLITZER: What are you telling -- what are you telling your fellow officers, Chief, about his capabilities, the weapons, what they should be doing?
DIAZ: Well, you know, starting last night, we received information from the FBI's joint regional intelligence center about this person. And we shared that, starting with last night's briefings, with all of our officers, as I believe all law enforcement throughout Southern California did. And what we told them is, you know, he has -- he's an individual who we know knows how to operate weapons, has had access to weapons, and has expressed this ideation avenging his grievances by killing police. So we shared that with everybody, as well as his name and physical description and the vehicle that, as far as we know, he was still driving today.
BAILEY: Wolf, I took my daughter to school today, so I think it's important for you to know and for the country to know and Riverside to know that Riverside is safe and secure. I didn't have a problem with that at all. I drove her to school and dropped her off and felt confident that our schools and our city is safe.
BOLDUAN: I have seen it reported that you met with the one officer that is wounded in the hospital earlier today. What did he tell you? Did this officer know the alleged shooter, Chris Dorner?
DIAZ: No, he did not. We have no indication at all that there was any connection between these two officers and the shooter. We believe that they were picked at random. They were probably the first uniformed officers that he came across after engaging in that prior assault on some LAPD officers in our neighboring town, Corona.
BLITZER: All right, guys, we really appreciate it. Once again, our condolences, and we hope you catch this guy very, very soon. We will stay in close touch, Mayor William Bailey, Sergio Diaz, the police chief. Good luck to you Good luck to everyone out there in Southern California.
BAILEY: Thanks for your support and prayers.
DIAZ: Thank you.
BOLDUAN: Thanks so much for your time, gentleman.
We're going to continue to follow that, as the manhunt in California continues. We're finding some surprises in the Facebook page of the alleged cop killer. We will bring more of that to you in a second. And also, tough questions for the president's choice to head the CIA about the use of drones to kill Americans.
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BLITZER: We're going to get back to our top story, the alleged cop killer in California.
A sudden move he made before the killings began -- we're going to talk about the challenges of tracking a killer with a former police chief at the helm of a notorious murder investigation.
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BOLDUAN: The alleged cop killer just started posting to Facebook recently, if you can even imagine, and there are dozens of pictures and postings.
Tom Foreman is here and has been taking a closer look into all of this.
Tom, what are you finding?
TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kate, we don't know for sure, as often is the case with Facebook, that this is necessarily his page.
But what we do know is that a page was started on the 21st of January, very recently, under his name, and the very next day, more than 200 photographs were dumped into it. Many of them look like exactly what he mentions in this manifesto, this idea of a smiling, happy person that you would see enjoying his work.
This one is of particular notice to us. You may notice he's shaking hands with this gentleman here. Think about what Anderson Cooper said a short while ago about that package that was delivered that made reference to Bill Bratton. This is Bill Bratton, former police chief. There, he signed it, "Chris, all the best, Chief Bill Bratton."
Many times, officers like this will have these souvenir coins that they hand out to people. So basically, this is a token of esteem from someone. The indication would be is, if this package that Anderson received is, in fact, from this man as it claims to be, the coin in there that was shot up, was one of those souvenir coins from Bill Bratton. Whether he got it on this day or not, we don't really know. But that's on this Facebook page, which may be his.
Pictures from the military, pictures in here of happier times, seemingly in the police department, or at least it looked that way. And then beyond the pictures, he posted some things like this, like his recognitions from when he was in the service there, and the honors he received. That's his name, right there, where it listed him of having an honorable recognition for something he did.
And then he also posted some things like this. Which are just things collected from the Internet, which state a point of view, like, here's a picture of Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart, where it says, "Stereotypes are awesome, but only one of them is convicted a felon." And beyond that, he has -- he posted the logo of Anonymous, that hacker group that's created so much turmoil in many places. And this photograph of a tombstone with his family name on it. We don't know where it's from. We don't know if it's even his family, but we know it's there.
Again, all of this very recently put onto Facebook. We don't know for sure if it's his page, but certainly, investigators, Kate, have to be looking at this.
BOLDUAN: So much of this is such a mystery. We'll continue to look into it. Tom, thank you so much.
BLITZER: The suspected cop killer used to be a Navy reserve lieutenant and those skills certainly could be helping him on this spree right now. He's out there. Our Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr, is joining us with more on this part of the story.
What are you learning about this military background?
BARBARA STARR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Wolf, we've been talking to the Navy all day about this. The NCIS, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, now sharing everything they have on this man with the LAPD and law enforcement out in Southern California. Any clues they might be able to get from his record.
He was honorably discharged from the Naval Reserve, oddly enough, just last week. So one of the concerns, very quietly, is they want to make sure, if he has a military I.D. card still in his possession, officials tell us they want to make sure it's canceled out, it's expired, that he cannot get onto a military base.
And one military officer telling me, they are exercising due diligence out there in California at bases to make sure they don't accidentally let him slip through the cracks. He did get shooting training, military shooting training when he was in the Naval Reserve. He was both a pistol expert and a rifle marksman, two very specific things. That means, we are told, he could shoot at 200 yards with some level of accuracy.
But we're also told by the military, they're feeling is that his real expertise in shooting, most likely, came from the LAPD, one of the most highly trained, of course, police forces in the country -- Wolf.
BLITZER: Certainly is, between the police background, the military background, obviously, potentially very, very dangerous. Barbara, thank you.
BOLDUAN: In the desperate search for Dorner, police mistakenly fired on a vehicle that looked like the suspect's pickup truck. Two people were inside, and they were wounded. The spokesman for the Torrance Police Department, Chris Roosen, is joining me now on the phone.
Sergeant, thanks so much for calling in.
SGT. CHRIS ROOSEN, SPOKESMAN, TORRANCE POLICE DEPARTMENT (VIA PHONE): You're welcome.
BOLDUAN: Tell me about this incident today in Torrance. What happened? Walk us through how police misidentified this car. Was -- were the people in this car doing anything suspicious to draw the attention of the police?
ROOSEN: Let me tell you, there's two incidents that happened in the city of Torrance or around the city of Torrance. The first incident, which occurred in our city, had to do with Los Angeles Police Department. They were involved in the shooting with the vehicle. They are handling that investigation, as we speak. And as of I know right now, it's continuing.
There was a second incident that occurred just within our borders, as it relates to that incident. So you have LAPD handling one crime scene, which was -- that happened in the city of Torrance, and the Torrance Police Department is handling the second.
BOLDUAN: Do you know anything about the people that were in that vehicle, though, that were shot? How they're doing?
ROOSEN: You know, I don't know anybody -- or, I don't know who the people are that were in the vehicle. I know that they sustained some injuries. That is about as much as I know.
BOLDUAN: Now, let me ask you about this -- the alleged gunman, Christopher Dorner. Do you know, does he have any connection to the city of Torrance? I know it's about 20 minutes south of Los Angeles, if I'm correct. I mean, we do know that officers were in the city in order to protect a potential target of Dorner's. What's his connection to the city?
ROOSEN: Well, that's as much as we know right now. LAPD is handling that part of the investigation.
As you said, LAPD Security Division was providing protection to a possible high-risk target, which is located in the city of Torrance. Officers responded to the location after they heard shots fired. They observed a truck leaving that area, matching a similar description of the suspect, Christopher Dorner's vehicle.
A Torrance Police patrol unit, occupied by two of our officers, encountered the black truck, collided with the vehicle, and that's when an officer-involved shooting occurred.
BOLDUAN: Let me also ask you, in general, there must be a lot of fear in the city, right now. What are you -- what are you and your fellow officers, what are you telling residents of the city of Torrance right now? Do -- do they have any concerns?
ROOSEN: Well, I'd like to believe that the Torrance Police Department does a very, very good job of reaching out to the community, making them aware of the situation. And initially, when something like this happens, obviously, there's a heightened awareness, maybe a heightened concern.
But the Torrance Police Department did a good job in reaching out to the community and making sure that what happened was explained. And yes, of course people are very curious, but we're still continuing the investigation. We're still providing as much information to our community as possible.
BOLDUAN: Sergeant Chris Roosen of the Torrance Police Department, thank you so much for calling in this morning. We'll be in touch. Thank you.
ROOSEN: All right. Thank you.
BLITZER: Lots of people in the Los Angeles area, Southern California...
BOLDUAN: Everyone. And all throughout...
BLITZER: ... are understandably very worried.
BOLDUAN: And on edge tonight.
BLITZER: Reminds me of what was going on here in the Washington, D.C., area during the sniper crisis that we had.
BOLDUAN: I think a lot of people are saying that today. Yes.
BLITZER; So what's driving the suspect? Up next, we're going to take a closer look at his 11-page manifesto. How authorities could be using it to try to track him down.
We'll also get some insight from Charles Moose. He led the investigation into that notorious D.C. area sniper shooting. Chief Moose, he's standing by.
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BLITZER: All right. There's been a significant development in this case, out in Los Angeles, in Southern California. Christopher Jordan Dorner, the suspect in the killings out there, we've just learned, moments ago, apparently, his vehicle has been found. Listen to the San Bernardino sheriff, John McMahon.
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SHERIFF JOHN MCMAHON, SAN BERNARDINO: About 2:30 this afternoon, we were able to confirm that there was a vehicle up on a forestry road that, in fact, was the vehicle that the suspect used this morning in getting away from the scene in Riverside. We have currently a search going on with guys going door to door, as well as our specialized enforcement detail, up in the area where the truck was located.
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BLITZER: And we understand the vehicle, the truck in this particular case, was burnt out.
This is the part of the shooting rampage that we're watching, including clearly a still very dangerous manhunt. We're following the search for this alleged cop killer in California right now.
Police on the case may get some insight from a killing spree a decade ago. The Beltway Sniper attacks here in the Washington, D.C., area, ten people were killed, three others wounded before police finally captured the snipers, Lee Boyd Malvo and John Muhammad at a highway rest stop.
Let's discuss what's going on. Joining us, the man who was at the helm of that investigation here in the D.C. area, the former police chief of Montgomery County, Charles Moose. He's joining us.
Also with us, our CNN contributor, the former FBI assistant director, Tom Fuentes; and the psychologist, Lisa Van Susteren. All right. Thanks to all of you for joining us.
Let me start with you, Chief Moose. What advice do you have for authorities out there? You went through a similar process in Montgomery County, outside of Washington, D.C.
CHARLES MOOSE, FORMER CHIEF OF POLICE, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, MARYLAND: Yes, Wolf. I think the key is, as this involves more and more communities, more and more law-enforcement agencies, that the communication and the sharing among all of those agencies becomes critical.
When you ask people to call 911 if they see or hear anything, we have to remember that these various 911 centers aren't connected, and so they must all communicate with each other.
And the call takers at these centers -- although the focus tends to be on the police officers, the call center staff need to be up to speed on all of the information, so that they don't let anything drop through the cracks.
BLITZER: All right. Stand by for a moment. I want to bring Tom Fuentes, formerly of the FBI, into this conversation.
He apparently tried to steal a boat near San Diego. What does that say to you? It says to me maybe he wanted to use a boat to get to Mexico or something like that.
TOM FUENTES, FORMER FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: A good possibility of that, Wolf. And that's what everybody would be looking at right now.
The fact that they found his car, it's been several hours since he actually parked it and torched it at that location. So he could have committed a home invasion and be with a family right now, holding them hostage, and a very, very dangerous situation. Or he could have already hijacked or stolen someone else's vehicle and be on his way to another state or to Mexico that way.
So the fact that they've located that car, that's a good thing, but they don't know that they've got him cornered in that area. He could be long gone or in somebody's home...
BLITZER: And presumably, he still has his weapons.
FUENTES: Well, that's the other issue. That he's heavily armed, he's as dangerous as can be, because he has great firepower and the skills to use it.
BOLDUAN: Now, Lisa, another wild part of this very still- developing story is that we have a window into this alleged killer's mind, this manifesto that he posted online. I mean, it's lengthy, but I want to read just a part of that it we have for our viewers.
He says, "I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy, but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
What does this tell you?
LISA VAN SUSTEREN, PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, this is kind of characteristic of people like this, and that is that they really don't hold themselves accountable for what they're doing. They characteristically blame others. They see themselves as a force against evil. They see themselves in an elevated sort of a station.
And so it doesn't really surprise me, given what he's done, that he has written a manifesto like this.
BOLDUAN: And Lisa, as well as you -- to you, Tom, how can you utilize this manifesto to outsmart, to ferret out this man? To bring him to justice?
VAN SUSTEREN: You want -- How can you outsmart him? He can't be outsmarted because of the manifesto. The manifesto is simply a representation of his very deranged thinking.
But if you want to understand why something like this happens, you can certainly look at that manifesto, but it's plain old cop work, police work that's going to trap him, not a psychological study. This is not like al Qaeda, with some serpentine sort of route that they're going about something. This is shoe leather, I'm afraid.
BLITZER: You know, I just want to bring Chief Moose in for a second.
Chief Moose, I want you to weigh in on that specific point. If he's now presumably looking for another vehicle, looking for something, maybe he's just looking to hide out someplace, it sounds to me, potentially, it could be like looking for a needle in a haystack, as they say.
MOOSE: Well, I think the one advantage we have, though, is we do know who he is, we know what he looks like, and I think that this is a great opportunity for the media, national and local, to encourage the community to participate. If they see anything, hear anything, we have an opportunity to get that step ahead and help that shoe work in terms of local law enforcement, knocking on doors and getting information.
So I think it helps that we know who he -- know who he is and sounds like we can possibly narrow the focus of where he may be.
BOLDUAN: Now, Tom, one other aspect of this is that we now know that this -- we believe, it is possible, that this man has sent, has referenced both Wolf, as well as Anderson Cooper and other reporters and journalists, and even sent a package to Anderson Cooper's office in New York. What does that tell you?
FUENTES: Actually, the information, along with the manifesto is somewhat contradictory, because on the one hand, in the manifesto, he basically says he's suicidal, has nothing to live for. "I've lost everything. Everything's been taken away from me since 2009." His whole identity linked to those jobs, as a military reservist and a police officer.
Now you have him sending off, you know, items to the media that are going to get worldwide attention and coverage. He hasn't killed himself yet. He made good on the one threat, when he said he's going to wage war against families and police officers and killed Officer Quan's daughter and fiancee in a terribly tragic murder there. And then turns around and ambushes two other police officers in Riverside, killing that officer, unfortunately.
So you have someone who, on the one hand, in one sense, you would expect him to commit suicide any minute and just end all of his pain and suffering.
On the other hand, he's still going after other people. He's still targeting police officers. He could be targeting any number of people, and at the same time, seeking fame through his use of the media.
BLITZER: We're going to stay in touch with all of you. Tom Fuentes, thanks very much. Lisa Van Susteren, thanks to you, as well. Chief Charles Moose, as always, thanks to you.
There's other news we're following here in THE SITUATION ROOM, including a wild day here in Washington up on Capitol Hill. Noisy protesters disrupting a hearing for President Obama's nominee to run the CIA.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Killing children!
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I will not stand for this. This is wrong!
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BLITZER: Protesters actually shut down today's hearing for President Obama's nominee to become the nation's next -- next director of the CIA.
Let's bring in our White House correspondent, Jessica Yellin. She filed this report.
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JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): President Obama's pick to be the next CIA director started...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're killing kids halfway across the world! I've been...
YELLIN: ... then restarted his confirmation hearing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We will stop again.
YELLIN: When objections to the U.S. drone program continued, committee chair, Dianne Feinstein, cleared the room of all visitors.
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: I'm going to ask -- We're going to halt the hearing. I'm going to ask...
YELLIN: Eventually, only those with a vote on his confirmation were left to speak. Their questions centered on the drones program. Overnight, the Obama administration gave the committee its legal rationale for the targeted killing of U.S. citizens. Troubling to Democrats...
SEN. RON WYDEN (D), OREGON: Let me ask you several other questions with respect to the president's authority to kill Americans. And whether the administration believes that the president can use this authority inside the United States.
YELLIN: While Republicans wanted to know...
SEN. SAXBY CHAMBLISS (R), GEORGIA: Your view seems to be that even if we could save American lives by detaining more terrorists, using only traditional techniques, it would be better to kill them with a drone or let them go free, rather than detain them.
JOHN BRENNAN, CIA DIRECTOR NOMINEE: I never believe it's better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. We want to detain as many terrorists as possible.
YELLIN: Then on the issue of enhanced interrogation, including waterboarding. Brennan was top CIA brass after 9/11 when those practices were used. He says he always opposed them.
BRENNAN: Waterboarding is something that never should have been employed and as far as I'm concerned never will be, if I have anything to do with it.
YELLIN: But in 2007, Brennan told CBS he believes the information obtained from these techniques helped, quote, "save lives." What changed his mind? In part, a report written by this very Senate committee.
BRENNAN: I must tell you, Senator, that reading this report from the committee raises serious questions about the information that I was given at the time, based on that information, as well as what the CIA says, what the truth is. and at this point, Senator, I do not know what the truth is.
YELLIN: And the other big topic of the day, information sharing. Senators complained the intelligence community does not share enough classified information with them.
SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D), WEST VIRGINIA: I'm going to pour out my frustration, on dealing with the Central Intelligence Agency, and dealing with various administrations, about trying to get information.
SEN. CARL LEVIN (D), MICHIGAN: And this is what the CIA did to the cable.
YELLIN: But shares too much with the media.
SEN. JAMES RISCH (R), IDAHO: It seems to me that the leak that the Justice Department is looking for is right here in front of us. And you disagree with that?
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YELLIN: Wolf, he did disagree with that statement.
Now, this committee will hold a classified hearing, meaning, behind closed doors, on Tuesday. And the current plan is for this committee to vote on the confirmation of John Brennan to be the next CIA director on Thursday, a week from today.
Here's an interesting note. Senator Dianne Feinstein said in her opening statement, she would like to see a court set up to oversee when drones are allowed to target for lethal killings -- Wolf.
BLITZER: All right, Jessica, thanks very much. Jessica Yellin at the White House.
BOLDUAN: When we come back, a popular Super Bowl ad is inspiring some other pretty bizarre kisses. Jeanne Moos is next.
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BLITZER: One of the most talked about commercials from the Super Bowl has taken on a life of its own. Jeanne Moos explains.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Ever since that GoDaddy Super Bowl ad aired, odd couple mouth-to-mouth has enjoyed a resuscitation. Jay Leno even proposed a replay with "Sports Illustrated" swimsuit model Bar Refaeli.
JAY LENO, HOST, NBC'S "THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO": Any chance we could recreate the ad?
BAR RAFAELI, MODEL: Sure, pucker up.
MOOS: Things went from funny to kinky when Justin Bieber started making out with a mannequin...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Justin! No, Justin!
MOOS: ... on Jimmy Fallon's show, and then he missed when he tried to make a basket with the head he'd just kissed.
One of the world's best soccer players got kissed on the head Wednesday by a fan who ran out on the field and tousled Lionel Messi's hair.
Another memorable lip lock got laughs when a mustachioed Will Farrell kissed an older woman on a bus in a Super Bowl spot for Old Milwaukee Beer. Two unforgettable kisses in one Super Bowl.
(on camera): Hey, stop averting your eyes. Stop squirming in your seat. You remember the song from "Casablanca."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (singing): You must remember this. A kiss is just a kiss.
MOOS (voice-over): But even we see this next kiss is special. "The Today Show's" Willie Geist was doing a Valentine's segment, getting briefed on flavored lip balm called Kiss Sticks. One person applies peaches, the other cream, and when you kiss, you get...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Peaches and cream.
AL ROKER, NBC METEOROLOGIST: How does that work?
WILLIE GEIST, CO-HOST, NBC'S "THE TODAY SHOW": No, Al, that's not going to happen here on "Today".
MOOS: But, oh, yes, it did.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whoo!
ROKER: Peaches and cream!
GEIST: Absolutely.
ROKER: Delicious.
MOOS: The odd couple kissing trend is spreading like mono, which brings us to the 11th commandment: Do not speak ill of your kissing partner, even when you do more than 45 takes.
RAFAELI: He's a sweetheart.
LENO: And is he a good kisser?
RAFAELI: You tell me.
LENO: Yes, I guess that's true.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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BLITZER: He was just -- if we had time...
BOLDUAN: I know. Everybody's doing that.
BLITZER: Unfortunately, we're out of time.
BOLDUAN: Unfortunately. BLITZER: That's it for us. "ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT" starts right now.
BOLDUAN: Good timing.
