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New Video Shows Individual Approaching Nancy Guthrie's Home; FBI Searches Arizona Home In Connection To Nancy Guthrie's Case; Person Detained for Questioning in Nancy Guthrie Case; President Trump to Meet With Netanyahu at White House; at Least Nine Killed in Mass Shooting in Canada, Suspect Found Dead With Apparent Self-inflicted Gunshot Wound. Aired 2-3a ET

Aired February 11, 2026 - 02:00   ET

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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN breaking news.

ELEX MICHAELSON, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Elex Michaelson live in Los Angeles, we are following two major breaking news stories, late breaking developments in the search for Nancy Guthrie and at least nine people killed in Canada's worst mass shooting in decades. That's why THE STORY IS is on for an extra hour right now.

Let's begin in Arizona, and the biggest break so far in the desperate search for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, mother of "Today" show host, Savannah Guthrie, this is a live picture right now from Rio Rico, Arizona, where it is after midnight, Arizona time, we see law enforcement presence in place. We see the yellow police line. We know that an investigation is actively happening inside that home. That investigation could take several hours.

A source tells CNN that the FBI and the Pima County Sheriff's Department have detained a person for questioning. That individual was picked up during a traffic stop in Rio Rico, which is south of Tucson, near the U.S.-Mexico border, about 60 miles from Tucson.

Authorities are stressing that that person has not yet been charged with any crime. Hasn't even officially been called a suspect, but a search warrant is being executed at that home that we are looking at right now.

As of now, a law enforcement source tells CNN's Josh Campbell that authorities do not know where Nancy Guthrie might be, so even though they have been talking with this person that has not given them information so far about the whereabouts of Nancy Guthrie, that is an important point.

A CNN team on the ground there spoke with a woman who claimed it was her home that we were just looking at live pictures of being searched. Here's some of what she had to say.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They came out telling us that somebody gave a tip that the lady was in my house. I don't know her name. We don't know. We don't know it at all. I don't know who she is. I don't know anything about her. They only said that they gave a tip that she was in the house.

And I told them, you can go in and search for the house, there's nobody there. I have nothing to hide. There's nobody in my house, and I don't know what's going on.

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MICHAELSON: So, all this comes after the FBI released new video and images captured by Nancy Guthrie's Nest doorbell camera of a masked, armed individual outside her home the morning she was apparently abducted. CNN's Ed Lavandera is in Pima County with more on all of this, Ed.

ED LAVANDERA, CNN SENIOR U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Elex, it has been a surreal day of developments in the investigation into the abduction of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, so I'll try to catch you up as best we can.

But it started off with this day, with the FBI releasing video and still images of the person they believe to be the subject who abducted Guthrie from her home around 1:45 in the morning, you could see the man wearing a mask and a backpack holding a gun in a holster around his waist. And those images we know in the hours since they were released caused a flood of tips to come in to investigators throughout the day.

And then, late tonight, we learned that there was a person who had been detained by Pima County Sheriffs and FBI investigators wanted in questioning in regard to the Guthrie disappearance. We should be crystal clear at this point, this person is not described as a suspect or a person of interest, simply someone who was detained and wanted for questioning.

We are at the scene there in -- this all happened in a town called Rio Rico, which is about 50 miles south of Tucson, very close to the U.S.- Mexico border. We -- this all started with a traffic stop of a silver Nissan Rogue, which we captured video of this evening. And we also have spoken with a woman who lives in a neighborhood where a court authorized search is going on well into this evening.

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And that woman says that it was her son who was -- her son-in-law who was detained, that he works as a delivery driver, occasionally driving up to Tucson and the Phoenix area as well.

But we do not know if exactly to the extent of this person's involvement in this. We have reached out to investigators, and they're obviously still conducting the questioning, so we do not have a clear picture yet on what role, if any, we should point out this person played in the abduction of Nancy Guthrie.

And the most important part of all of this, Elex, is that as all of this flurry of law enforcement activity has been going on throughout the night, we still do not have any clear indication as to where Nancy Guthrie might be, Elex.

MICHAELSON: Most important thing of all. Ed Lavandera, thank you.

Joining me now for insight and analysis is retired lieutenant with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, Gil Carrillo and private investigator, Logan Clarke. Gentlemen, thank you for staying up late with us tonight to provide insight.

Gil, let's start with you, and this decision today, the big headline of the morning at least, was to release this video, which we're still trying to garner clues from. You say that it may not have been as innocent as it was said, which was, we just -- law enforcement said, we just got this video. We want it out there. We don't have many clues, so we're sending this out to the public. You think it might be more than that?

GIL CARRILLO, RETIRED LIEUTENANT, L.A. COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: Well, I said there's a good possibility. In the business, we use the media to our advantage, and the media needs us to give them their story. But what you do with the media sometimes you release it in an effort to create stimulus. You're stimulating the suspect. You're stirring the pot, because, as I said before, the public is watching your newscast, but so is the suspect or suspects.

So, by releasing this it creates action on his part. I don't believe at this point in time that this car, 51 miles away from Tucson, just happened to drop by and they innocently committed a traffic violation, so now all of a sudden they're questioning him and detaining them for questioning.

I have to believe that they have known something about this individual, that car, something brought them to the house. They had to have enough information where they could get probable cause to write a search warrant to go ahead and search the house, and at the same time, somebody deposited some Bitcoins. And --

MICHAELSON: Right, that was the other headline of the day, that in this Bitcoin address that was listed in the ransom note that was sent to TMZ into a couple local stations today, for the first time, somebody deposited $300 there, which you suspect may be the FBI.

CARRILLO: Sure, I just believe that that, once again, that's more stimuli. So, they're watching, obviously they're watching, keeping an eye on the Bitcoin, but this, it's just leading to what they want. They put it out there. They're not following leads.

MICHAELSON: And these folks may be very focused on the media, considering their track record if all this ends up being the same person. I mean, first off, attacking the home of the mother of the "Today" Show anchor, one of the highest, you know, rated T.V. shows in news, sending the ransom notes to TMZ and to local media themselves and you know, they may be really focused on media attention, especially media attention in the Tucson media market.

LOGAN CLARKE, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Well, they watch -- they would be watching television to find out how close the police are getting. They're hoping for clues too, to see, are they getting near us? Are they, you know -- and that, like he's -- like Gil said, that gets action, that makes them do something, they might move something, they might get worried. You want them -- you want them to do things, to move.

They took the wires off. There was a camera on the top, on the roof that possibly that they put there on the roof.

MICHAELSON: They put the suspects themselves, put a camera on the roof? Because we saw, days after this investigation, all of a sudden law enforcement's up on the roof, focused on something which was kind of surprising to reporters there, because they had cleared the scene, they had allowed everybody back, and then they shut it back down, and then put and then they were focused on the roof.

CLARKE: They -- yes, they should have never cleared that house that fast. The sheriff, I doubt there's been many kidnappings in Pima, right? But they opened up that house and -- not opened the house but there were cops going around and people walking around. They contaminated the, you know, the scene.

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But if that was a camera. I've done extractions of people and kidnappings, and I'll leave either a camera that with the technology today, leave a camera on that spot. I want to see how fast who's getting there. If they want to see if the cops go there, what time they go there. That gives them a timing of what's going on in that house.

In my case, I wanted to get to the border and get across the border. And if they know, if I know when the cops go, when they get there, I can time things and figure that out. And somebody had to go up on that roof, if that's a camera.

MICHAELSON: Another development of today, Gil, was that the sheriff's deputies canvassed the neighborhood of Annie Guthrie, who is another one of Nancy Guthrie's kids, and all over the neighborhood there. What do you read into that?

CARRILLO: I don't. I can't -- I can't speak as the operation of their minds. They have information, or they didn't have and they said, let's try it. It's another investigative lead.

But they had to have one of the two, either some kind of a tip, something that led them to that, or they just said that pond closest -- when you throw a rock into a pond, the closest ripple, family members, friends. So, their family, let's give them a look at.

MICHAELSON: Yes, which goes to your sort of belief that maybe this was an inside job where somebody knew something about the family. CLARKE: Sure and, yes, they go to the last person. That's the house that where they had dinner that night, right? Well, that's -- that was the last people that saw them. I would have asked them, how often do you have dinner with her? Whose idea was it to have dinner? And there's -- they talked about the son-in-law. Earlier, a couple days ago, they were talking about the son-in-law.

MICHAELSON: Nancy Guthrie's son-in-law, which unconfirmed reports. There were some media outlets that went with that. CNN has not been able to confirm any potential involvement in that. And we know sometimes when things go started online, they get seen as fact. But so far, we don't -- we don't know that.

CLARKE: But they were the last person to see her be with her, so that's where you're going to go.

MICHAELSON: Right. That's where you're going to go.

CLARKE: Like, if a wife dies, they're going to talk to the husband, you know, immediately.

MICHAELSON: So, what's this search, Gil, like at this house? We see the live pictures from Rio Rico. We know that that is still underway after midnight there. What's going on there behind that police line right now?

CARRILLO: They have forensic specialists in there looking for everything, using lasers, if necessary, anything, to find any kind of trace evidence that might be around that you see on television every day, hairs, fibers, blood, any kind of evidence, any kind of evidence that may have been used in the crime. If they can find any kind of matching clothing, any kind of matching clubs, anything, shoe size, you know, but they're going over with a fine tooth comb.

You get one shot at it, and you make it and you make it your best. And they have the FBI working in hand in hand with Pima County. So, they're doing this in collaboration with each other, just to make sure that they get everything, if there is anything to be received.

MICHAELSON: Right. And we don't know that.

CARRILLO: And we don't know that.

MICHAELSON: And again, there hasn't been any arrests or anything like that so far based off of what they've found. And again, the unfortunate reality is we don't know where Nancy Guthrie is, which is the most important thing.

CARRILLO: That's true, that is by far the most important thing. That's the goal, find her.

MICHAELSON: Thank you gentlemen for being here tonight. We will continue to lean on you as we continue our live coverage throughout the night.

A reminder, authorities are asking anyone with information to contact the Pima County Sheriff's Department. That number on your screen, 520- 351-4900, or you can reach out to the FBI directly.

When we come back, we will continue to follow this story, plus details of a mass shooting in Canada. Breaking news there, the country's deadliest school shooting in decades, we'll tell you what is happening there.

Plus, authorities questioning a person in connection with the apparent kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie. More on that. we'll follow these two big breaking stories live here on CNN.

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MICHAELSON: We are staying right on top of the Nancy Guthrie case, but first an update on some other breaking news this coming out of Canada, authorities say at least nine people there are dead after a shooting at a high school and a home in a remote area of British Columbia. Dozens of people are hurt and the suspect may be female is dead.

Canada's Prime Minister wrote that he is, "Devastated by the horrific shootings that he joins Canadians in grieving with those whose lives have been changed irreversibly." British Columbia's premier also weighing in.

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DAVID EBY, PREMIER OF BRITISH COLUMBIA: The devastation these families face, you know, it's just impossible to understand what they're going through without going through it yourself.

But I can say for myself, and I'm sure for many British Columbians, many Canadians, it makes us think about our kids' safety when they're going to school. We take it for granted. You go to school, you come home safe, and events like this give us pause.

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MICHAELSON: Investigators have not identified the shooting or the victims, nor have they revealed any sort of motive.

CNN Paula Newton explains what is known about this tragic incident. Paula? We may not have that story quite ready for you yet, hopefully we will go back to it soon.

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We will go now to our top story. Authorities are searching a home in southern Arizona as part of the investigation into the apparent kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie, that home located in Rio Rico, not far from the Mexican border, about 60 miles south of Tucson where Guthrie was last seen. A person was detained during a traffic stop in Rio Rico, and is being questioned by law enforcement, source tells us, but they have stressed, this person has not been charged with a crime. Amid that questioning, authorities still have not gleaned the location of Nancy Guthrie. Let's bring in retired U.S. Navy SEAL commander and hostage negotiator

Dan O'Shea, Dan, thanks for staying up late with us. We appreciate it.

DAN O'SHEA, HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR: Good morning.

MICHAELSON: What do you find most interesting about what's happening right now?

O'SHEA: Well, I think for the first 10 days, the law enforcement stance had been, we have no person of interest. We have no vehicle of interest. And now not 24 hours after the deadline, the second ransom deadline, we have this frantic activity of FBI, SWAT hostage rescue team and other SWAT type organizations going out, rolling up, at least for now, the first person of interest, again, as the law enforcement is not saying a whole lot yet, but that video that was released this afternoon that shows dramatic footage of at least one of the individuals involved in the abduction of Nancy Guthrie has been a game changer, and I think they must have known about this photo for a number of days, that they've done all the evidence research on it that they could, and now they're releasing it to the public, and let's hope that the tips line are bringing off the hooks with more information and will hopefully lead us to this suspect.

MICHAELSON: As somebody with a lot of experience as a hostage negotiator, now that you have this person who may be connected to this speaking with law enforcement, what's that conversation like?

O'SHEA: Well, I mean, it's an -- it's an interrogation, for sure. Again, the law enforcement is always going to be hesitant to reveal too much information, so I don't want to read it too far and speculate that they've got someone directly connected.

But this is -- this is significant in that for the first 10 days, no one had been brought in for questioning. And, you know, let's hope this goes somewhere.

But if indeed this person is connected, he's probably one of many, you know. So, hopefully, the evidence they'll have on him, his cell phone, will probably prove that that itself might, if indeed he's involved, that will probably lead him, you know, to show that his involvement in this if he was one of those tied to this case, and it'll open up the door.

So, a lot of times, if someone realizes that the gigs up, the cops have enough information on them, then he can turn over and hopefully ruin the other. So, I again, I don't want to get ahead that this person is guilty yet, but if he is, there's going to -- he's going to have evidence on him, clothing, his cell phone and others, and that will lead to other question.

And if he realizes that, you know, the gigs up for him, that'll lead him to turn on others and hopefully bring this -- bring this entire investigation to a close sooner rather than later.

MICHAELSON: I mean, because what is the strategy to sort of convince somebody to maybe give up her location, to trust you enough to do that?

O'SHEA: Well, you know, there's been -- I don't know if they bargained for this type of worldwide news media focus. I mean, I'm running on fumes with I think -- I think, honestly, you're probably my ninth interview in the space of one day. I've averaged seven to eight interviews a day. And it hasn't just been across the U.S. networks. It's been Australia and Canada as well.

There is global interest in this, and I think they may be the folks initially did this there. If they were looking for a quick ransom, they got a lot more than they bargained for. And I think they realized that the stakes are as high as they are. You've got not only focus from local law enforcement, the entire focus from the FBI. The FBI director is on the ground in Arizona, so this is really a full court press and I think we're now seeing results because of it.

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MICHAELSON: Let's hope so. Dan O'Shea, thank you for being so tireless. It's really valuable to be able to talk with you. I don't know if it's good morning you just woke up or you're still going, but either way, we appreciate your insights joining us live from Tampa. Thanks so much. Thanks, sir.

More on our breaking news from Arizona, where authorities are questioning that person in connection with the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, hopefully we get news of what exactly has been said. Stay with us. We're staying on top of this and staying up with you all through the night.

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ELEX MICHAELSON, CNN HOST OF "THE STORY IS": Welcome back to "The Story Is." I'm Elex Michaelson. Here's a look at today's top stories. Major developments this hour in the Nancy Guthrie case.

Authorities in Arizona have executed a search warrant at a home in Rio Rico, about 50 miles south of Tucson. Pima County Sheriff's Office said a subject was being questioned after a traffic stop. Law enforcement official says the person was detained.

U.S. President, Donald Trump will meet with Israel's prime minister in the Oval Office in the coming hours. Sources tell CNN that Benjamin Netanyahu plans to discuss possible military options against Iran. This comes after U.S. diplomats held early talks with Iran on a new nuclear deal. Israel is doubtful that those negotiations will succeed.

Authorities are investigating Canada's deadliest school shooting in decades. At least nine people were fatally shot, dozens more injured in British Columbia. Two of those killed were found in a home believed to be tied to the incident. Police say the suspect died of a self- inflicted gunshot wound. No names have been released, no word yet on a possible motive. Investigators have not identified the shooter or the victims. CNN's Paula Newton explains what is known about the tragic incident. Paula?

PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Elex, the details of this are just so difficult to fathom. And there's profound shock and horror, not just in this small community in British Columbia, but really right throughout the country. What happened was that early afternoon, an alert went out by police.

They told everyone to shelter in place, and they indicated there was an active shooter. They had reports of an active shooter at the local high school. I mean, it's just a few thousand people in the town, only a few hundred people in the high school, and police went there.

They tried to determine exactly how many people were injured and had died. I want you to listen now to an update that we received from RCMP.

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SUPT. KEN FLOYD, ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE: Multiple injuries and multiple deceased were inside the school as officers progressed through the scene, locating them and triaging those events. We also located two deceased at another scene.

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NEWTON: So what we know is that six were found dead in the high school, as well the suspect with a self-inflicted injury. Another person died on the way to hospital, and two people, as you just heard him say, died at another residence.

Police refuse to say what the connection is between the suspect or anyone. They are not saying if these are students or teachers, but also horrifying the fact that at least a couple of dozen people were either treated locally for serious injuries in some cases or also had to be airlifted. This is a community in complete shock.

In terms of the suspect, they are only saying that the suspect does involve the person that they had described in the alert, and that was a woman wearing a dress with brown hair. They don't know anything else just in terms of the relationship that this active shooter, this suspect had with anyone in the community, and also not saying much about any kind of a motive.

At this point, just terrible sadness and really trauma right throughout the community. It is a close-knit community, very small, and you can imagine the parents, the relatives that were in lockdown and were told they couldn't even go to the school to determine whether or not their loved ones were safe.

And so many in the community, right now, just figuring out where their loved ones are and still hoping to find those who have now been airlifted to hospital. Elex?

MICHAELSON: Paula Newton with a very sad story out of Canada. Back to Arizona now, where a law enforcement official says a person has been detained for questioning in the Nancy Guthrie case. Authorities are stressing this person has not been charged. But at this hour, investigators are executing a search warrant at a home in Rio Rico about 50 miles south of Tucson.

Pima County Sheriff's Office, which is being assisted by the FBI, says the court-authorized search could last for hours. A woman who says she's the mother-in-law of the detained person spoke just a short time ago to CNN.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're not hiding anything. I gave them permission. You can go and search. There's nothing in the house. You won't find anything because we have nothing to hide.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this your son-in-law's vehicle?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The one that was on the side over there?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's my daughter's vehicle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what is your son's name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah. It's her husband.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you live in the -- It's her husband? So it's your son-in-law.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah, my son-in-law.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who they took away?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah, my son--in-law. Yeah. He has nothing to do with that either.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he ever say anything about Nancy Guthrie?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nothing. Nothing. We never -- like I told the FBI, the investigator, if I knew anything about her, I said I saw her on Facebook, but I didn't read what was going on with her because I don't know her and I don't have the right to -- I mean, if I don't know anybody, I won't read the story. I just go over, keep on going on the phone because I don't know her.

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MICHAELSON: So, we're bleeping his name right now because he has not been arrested, not even been identified as a person of interest and not been charged with any crime. Let's talk more about all of this with our law enforcement panel tonight. Retired Lieutenant with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, Gil Carrillo and Private Investigator, Logan Clarke, both back with me.

Gil, let's start with you. It is now after midnight in Arizona. What should we expect over the next 24 hours? What should we see when people wake up in the morning?

GIL CARRILLO, RETIRED LIEUTENANT, L.A. COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: They're going to -- it's going to take time before they have a big press conference because they have to go over -- they have to mull over everything that they found or located at the house of the search warrant on. They're going to have to do something with the gentleman that is being detained because by law, wheels of justice are turning. They have to, within 48 hours, decide what they're going to do with him and they'll address that.

MICHAELSON: Either charge him with a crime or release him.

CARRILLO: Exactly. Either arrest him or release him.

MICHAELSON: Yeah.

CARRILLO: And they'll discuss that. I don't expect, and when you give poor guys in the trenches, you need to give them just a little rest to go on. So, I expect sometime late tomorrow morning, there'll be a press conference just to go over what they did. And if there's nothing to go over because, now, it's lingering. Now you've -- it's like throwing the dog a bone.

You know, you have somebody detained and inquiring minds want to know, and they want to keep the interest of the public involved because the main objective is to find Nancy Guthrie.

MICHAELSON: And so far --

CARRILLO: And so far, that objective has not been, at least we're not aware of it.

MICHAELSON: What should we look out for in the next 24 hours?

LOGAN CLARKE, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: The breaking of those phones, all the phone lists to see if those phones --

MICHAELSON: Yeah. So a reminder for folks so that the mother-in-law that we just heard from said that they seized the phone.

CLARKE: Everybody's phone.

MICHAELSON: Of her and everybody in the house, including this son-in- law.

CLARKE: Right.

MICHAELSON: And so that now, law enforcement has the phones. CLARKE: Yeah. And the guy had a cell phone.

MICHAELSON: Yeah.

CLARKE: So they pulled that.

MICHAELSON: The guy meaning the suspect --

CLARKE: Yeah, the suspect.

MICHAELSON: -- that was seen on the surveillance video --

CLARKE: Right.

MICHAELSON: -- also had a cell phone. So, are those the same phone or did they call each other?

CLARKE: Did they call each other? And then they -- then they know that there's some involvement or they -- they might charge him to hold them longer. A lot of times when they have -- if they've got strong suspicion, they'll charge them with something small just to hold him.

CARRILLO: If they have something.

CLARKE: If they have, yeah. If they have anything, whatever he was stopped for, they're not going to throw them in jail for, you know, for a traffic ticket or something like that.

MICHAELSON: When you looked at that video of the suspects and there may be multiple suspects on that video, as far as we know, you were struck by what you thought were potentially feminine features, maybe a woman.

CLARKE: Well, his eyes, the eyes --

MICHAELSON: Or her.

CLARKE: Yeah. When you saw the eyes, the eyebrows, it didn't look like male eyebrows. I mean, they were -- it almost looked like they had been plucked and you can't tell the amount of clothes that the person was wearing. It's almost like they were wearing too many clothes.

I don't know how cold it was in Pima, but he had an awful lot of clothes on. He had gloves on, had the mask on. And you couldn't tell if that was a man or a woman.

MICHAELSON: Yeah.

CLARKE: If it was a woman, then she definitely had to have people, there had to be some guy that's going to bring her out. Like I said, there's got probably two or three people that were involved in getting her out of the house and somebody driving the car.

MICHAELSON: Yeah. And meanwhile, let's talk about Savannah Guthrie and her siblings. We feel so much for them. We've seen these videos, Gil, that have been coming out.

I mean, her social media has really been driving the news cycle on this and that video over the weekend, which was so hard to watch. I mean, law enforcement probably involved in all this, right?

CARRILLO: I believe she's at the direction or at the advice of the law enforcement. They're advising her what to say and what not to say. They're going along with her releasing what she's doing because she ultimately wants to help find her mother as well. And so, she's going to be doing everything. That's what the experts are for.

She should be listening to what they're saying. And maybe that's why there's a change in tone of the way she's asking or what she's asking and how much has been released. But I'm sure everything is being run by her before it's gone out.

MICHAELSON: Yeah. And your thoughts on that?

CLARKE: Yeah, she's being told or advised what to say and what not to say. If they wanted to pay the money, the police wouldn't have anything to do with that. If they wanted to pay the money, they could pay the money.

MICHAELSON: And over the weekend, she did say in the video, we will (inaudible).

CLARKE: We will pay the money.

MICHAELSON: But then there has not been any evidence in the Bitcoin account so far of them paying $6 million. There was evidence of a $300 transfer today, far cry from $6 million.

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CLARKE: Right. And if she paid -- God, I would hope that she wouldn't pay a large amount of money without having proof of life. It just -- it just would be silly to do it.

MICHAELSON: And so far, as far as we know, there has not been proof of life and there has not been proof of life tonight. Even after this person was stopped, even after the search warrant, so far, we still don't know where Nancy Guthrie is. Let's hope, in the coming hours, that changes.

CLARKE: And her medical situation, 10 days without her medication.

MICHAELSON: Yeah.

CLARKE: She's very upset. I mean, being kidnapped, she's 84-years- old. Her blood pressure's got to be spiking.

MICHAELSON: Yeah.

CLARKE: There's many things that could have gone wrong and they can't show proof of life.

MICHAELSON: Yeah.

CLARKE: I hope that's not the case.

MICHAELSON: Let's hope for a miracle.

CLARKE: Yeah.

MICHAELSON: Gil, Logan, thank you both for staying up late with us, for staying with us for the last two hours. It's really been helpful to have you guide us through this coverage. Thank you so much.

CARRILLO: My pleasure.

MICHAELSON: And we will maybe see you guys tomorrow. We'll have more though of our breaking coverage of the Nancy Guthrie investigation. Up next, I'll be speaking with a law enforcement expert on what we can expect next as this case unfolds. Stay with us.

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MICHAELSON: Live pictures right now from Rio Rico, Arizona. This is where police activities continue at this hour. It's 12.40 a.m. in Arizona. We see law enforcement on the scene. Authorities, right now, are conducting a court-authorized search of a home there. This is something that they needed to get a warrant, which means that they have probable cause that there's reason to search that home.

A judge signed off on that. And now that search is underway. The Pima County Sheriff's Office says the operation could last for several hours. We've already seen them on scene there for several hours. Looks like they're now allowing some cars to get through. Now, it's important to point out, nobody has been charged with a crime here.

And even the person they're talking to, they only say is being detained, not a person of interest. A source says authorities still don't know where Nancy Guthrie is. And arriving at this home has not, so far at least, given them any clues into where she is.

Let's go now to Sunny Slaughter, who is a law enforcement and litigation expert. She joins me live now from Washington. Welcome back to "The Story Is." We spoke last night. You are a law enforcement and litigation expert. How do you see those two intersecting right now?

SUNNY SLAUGHTER, LAW ENFORCEMENT & LITIGATION EXPERT: Thanks for having me again, Elex. One of the things that's really critical right now is, as my law enforcement lens works, I know that they have to, that they are doing all of the investigative processes that they are following through, making sure that they have probable cause for the warrant so they can actually go into the home and look for the clues that they believe that the probable cause warrant is going to address. That means anything related to this case.

On the litigation side, it is really critical that they do not cross any constitutional barriers. Meaning, if the person currently detained does not want to speak, they should not be questioning. If that person asks for an attorney, they need to stop questioning immediately.

Every single thing is under the microscope from when it goes from probable cause to investigation, to courtroom, to trial strategy, and to the outcomes of this case. They do not want to compromise the investigation in locating Nancy Guthrie. That is the critical point.

But they also don't want to compromise anything that can lead to the potential conviction and prosecution of an individual that they may even -- that they may be detained and questioning right now, or other suspects that are clearly attached to this case. So they have to be careful, but they have to execute all of the things that they need to do to find Nancy Guthrie, and that is where we are right now.

I have full faith that the FBI and law enforcement have coordinated properly, that they are doing everything that is necessary. But I want to remind the public, they are doing this through the lens that they must, but also the lens -- the long lens from the D.A.s and others watching it to ensure that they don't cross any barriers.

MICHAELSON: What a 24 hours since we spoke last. I mean, think about everything that happened over the course of this day. The releasing of this new video, this idea that some money was put into the Bitcoin account, the stopping of this person, the search warrant executed. What's your most important takeaway of the last 24 hours?

SLAUGHTER: That they found this video, that there was something that they -- law enforcement is always going to hold something back. And they may have had other information, I'm sure that they did. But this video was critical in getting the jumpstart to what we are seeing right now.

It became -- the video became a lens (ph) to what was happening, that they weren't just sitting still and sitting quiet, and that we can move forward.

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MICHAELSON: Obviously, we're having some technical problems with Sunny. Let's hope that this stays for at least this answer. In terms of where we go from here, we've seen quite the last 24 hours. What do we expect in the next 24 hours?

SLAUGHTER: The next 24 hours is to really ramp up the efforts to locate Nancy, to get the person that is currently being detained to have a conversation, if they know anything, to identify other potential people for questioning and to find Nancy. And to do that, they need to get more answers. So, the public needs to still be vigilant and not go silent just because they have a person detained.

Still continue to call in those tips to the numbers that CNN has been putting out consistently and to follow through with anything suspicious that they may know now that there's someone that they have detained and there are people in the area and houses are being searched. There's a lot to unpack in the next 24 hours.

MICHAELSON: Yeah. About 24 hours ago, you said you hope that you're wrong, that Nancy may no longer be with us. We all hope that you're wrong, at least on that front, and maybe this video will help make that happen.

Sunny Slaughter, thank you so much for joining us once again and staying up late with us. We really appreciate it.

In the past 10 days, we have seen many news reports about the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of NBC News Anchor, Savannah Guthrie. But Nancy Guthrie's life is about more than just the headlines. Here's Tom Foreman with the profile.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, "TODAY" SHOW ANCHOR, NBC NEWS: I'm going to kill you. Are you kidding me?

TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): To fans of the "Today" show, Nancy Guthrie is more than just Savannah's mom. She is a mahjong player, an avid reader, an octogenarian with character to spare.

S. GUTHRIE: So, this won't be one of those easy at home recipes.

NANCY GUTHRIE, SAVANNAH GUTHRIE'S MOM ABDUCTED 10 DAYS AGO: No.

S. GUTHRIE: OK, tell me about what we have.

N. GUTHRIE It's not very healthy either.

FOREMAN (voice-over): While closer to her home, some know Nancy primarily as a pleasant neighbor.

JEFF LAMIE, NANCY GUTHRIE'S NEIGHBOR: We were not aware that Savannah Guthrie was her daughter. I mean, just a very normal person in a community.

FOREMAN (voice-over): On a winter day in 1942, with the Second World War raging, just south of Cincinnati, Nancy Ellen Long was born in Fort Wright, Kentucky. That's her in this old family photo on Instagram, where other pictures show how she grew up, went to college, married an engineer, Charles Guthrie, and they started a family while chasing his career around the globe.

When they settled in Arizona, life remained busy, but good.

S. GUTHRIE: On Christmas Eve, my father would always gather us around and we would read the Christmas story in the Bible. And we always really loved that because I think it connected us to the holiday.

FOREMAN (voice-over): Then Charles died from a heart attack, leaving Nancy just in her mid-40s to take care of the kids on her own. Savannah, the youngest, was 16 at the time.

S. GUTHRIE: She has met unthinkable challenges in her life, with grit, without self-pity, with determination, and always, always with unshakable faith. FOREMAN (voice-over): Nancy eventually went to work in administration for the University of Arizona, excelling professionally and personally.

N. GUTHRIE: My kids are absolutely amazing.

FOREMAN (voice-over): As the proud mother of a pilot, a poet, and a journalist.

S. GUTHRIE: My mom, she's a truth teller, so she doesn't BS, if I guess I can say that.

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S. GUTHRIE: Sorry, Mom. And when I was in my 30s and wasn't sure I would ever have kids, she said, of course you will, honey, of course you will have your family.

FOREMAN (voice-over): Through it all, and despite declining health, her faith has deepened to hear the family pastor tell it.

REV. MICHAEL RUDZENA, GOOD SHEPHERD NEW YORK (via telephone): Over the years, we've gotten to know what makes her tick in some ways from a faith perspective. The songs that mean something to her, the scriptures that are meaningful for her.

FOREMAN (voice-over): And yet, for all everyone knows about this outgoing, optimistic, accomplished woman, it's the unanswered questions that trouble now. Where is she? How is she? And when will she be back home?

S. GUTHRIE: We love you, Mom.

ANNIE GUTHRIE, SAVANNAH GUTHRIE'S SISTER: We love you, Mom.

CAMRON GUTHRIE, SAVANNAH GUTHRIE'S BROTHER: We love you, Mom. Stay strong.

A. GUTHRIE: We love you, Mom.

FOREMAN (voice-over): Tom Foreman, CNN.

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MICHAELSON: So, we will keep putting this number up there as much as we can. Authorities asking anyone with information about Nancy to contact the Pima County Sheriff's Department on that number on your screen, 520-351-4900 -- 520-351-4900. You can also contact the FBI directly.

After that video came out today, there were a lot more tips coming in. Hopefully, some of those tips can help to finally find Nancy.

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Thank you so much for being with us for this extra hour of "The Story Is" tonight as we continue Breaking News coverage. CNN is going to be on all night long with 24-hour coverage of this live. Rosemary Church will pick up the coverage next.

I'm Elex Michaelson. Thanks for watching. I'll see you tomorrow.

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