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Europe Swelters Under Record-High Temperatures; Tech Valuation Worries Hurting Stock Markets Worldwide; Rubio Arrives In UAE For Regional Tour To Reassure U.S. Allies About Interim Peace Agreement With Iran; Source: Cuts Underway At Office Of Director Of National Intelligence; New York Primaries To Test Influence Of Mayor Mamdani; Ronaldo Scores Two Goals As Portugal Rout Uzbekistan; U.S. Senate Votes To Limit Trump's Iran War Powers. Aired 3-4p ET
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MAX FOSTER, CNN HOST: A deadly, record-breaking heat wave taking hold in Europe.
This is WHAT WE KNOW.
Schools closed, trains at a standstill, and dozens seeking refreshment drowned. A dangerous heat wave is spreading across Europe.
The U.K. is expected to see mid-30 degrees Celsius this week. Those are triple-digit temperatures in Fahrenheit. The Met Office is warning of
severe impacts on energy and water.
But in France today, it posted its hottest day on record. Officials there say more than 45 people have died in the past few days alone.
Melissa Bell joins us now from Paris.
And to think that we're reaching these temperatures now, and they are record-breaking temperatures, and we haven't hit the hottest part of the
week, Melissa.
MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's what's crazy, Max. This has been going on for several days. The heat wave here in France
started in the middle of last week, and we've seen this sort of plateau of heat set in with these rises in temperature, these new records, Monday to
Tuesday, the hottest night on record, and today, the hottest ever recorded in France.
And what is happening here is headed your way, but has already been the case elsewhere in Europe for the last few.
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BELL (voice-over): It's already proving a devastating heat wave, with firefighters battling wildfires in Greece and in France, and temperature
records being shattered across Europe, like in Cognac in southwestern France, where they rose above 106 degrees on Monday.
It's the second heat wave in Europe in as many months, with schools closing like here in Pithiviers, where all nursery and primary schools will remain
closed for the week, according to CNN's affiliate BFMTV.
Trains, too, have been canceled, and public services across France are under pressure as the heat turns deadly.
Beyond the heat-related deaths, authorities in France say that 40 people have drowned since the extreme heat began last week.
In Germany, too, people are doing all they can to stay cool with red heat alerts affecting several parts of the country, and even London is bracing
for even more heat.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I find it quite unbearable, and I think it is a sign of big -- climate change, and I just think that London is not a city that's
meant to be hot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The weather's really hot, but ultimately, it's not good for a lot of people, and I think we need to be more aware. It looks like
we're all having fun here, but there's lots of people living in homes which are overheating.
BELL (voice-over): The UK has also issued a rare heat alert and closed some of its schools.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, there's only so much that can be done, especially as schools haven't got the funding to cover the cost of
adaptation.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY: I do feel a lot more hot, and it's harder to go to the park and have a nice time outside.
BELL (voice-over): Few European homes are equipped with air conditioning, making heat waves even more dangerous. In Paris, parks normally closed in
the evening were left open to allow Parisians some respite, as Monday into Tuesday proved the hottest night on record.
Also, a better place to watch France's World Cup match against Iraq than stifling apartments.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): The park also offers some privacy for sleeping. And I think it's quieter. So I think it should stay
open like this all year round, for homeless people as well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): And today, I think it's a reality that we can no longer deny, even on an individual level, like when we come
to a park at 11:00 p.m. to find a bit of cool air. The fact is, global warming is very much here.
BELL (voice-over): People are being urged to stay out of the sun, to stay cool, and to stay hydrated as Europeans brave one of the worst heat waves
on record.
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BELL: So, Max, as I was saying, it is already hot where you are, but this is only going to get worse into Wednesday and Thursday.
FOSTER: I just want to ask, you know, what Pan-European authorities might be saying about this, just because I was reading today that Europe is
heating up two to three times faster than other continents, and what you just exposed there is that the infrastructure just isn't built for this. It
isn't there, and to update it would be this huge cost, of course, which the countries couldn't afford, but is this something they're looking at long-
term?
BELL: I think it's really difficult. A bit like for us in the news business, what, for the last 10, 15 years, we've been reporting on
wildfires across Europe, reporting on these summers heating up, the heat waves coming earlier and proving more intense, Max.
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And it's a sort of slow-burn news story. But that's the same for authorities, governments who were elected for a few years. The amount of
infrastructure change that it would take in a city like Paris, for instance, to equip it to be able to cope as Southern American cities or
cities in the Middle East and the Gulf region do with this extreme heat would take much longer-term planning.
So we're all kind of running to catch up with something that is just going so fast. If I think back to the last few heat waves last year, the year
before, it was hot, but it was not this hot. So we're sort of all bunnies in the headlights watching this happen with very little long-term ability
to figure out what to do.
And there's also the fact that what we now know is that this is down to man-made global warming. So the kind of effects that we're now going to see
are only like to get worse.
And you're right. Europe is the fastest-warming continent on Earth. What we're seeing in real time is that that is getting truer and faster, and
there's very little authorities can do about it. They can tinker around the edges. People will install a little more air conditioning. But long-term,
our cities, our continent, is unlikely to look anything like the one we grew up in, Max.
FOSTER: Okay, Melissa, thank you so much. We'll have more from you, I think, tomorrow.
Well, temperatures may be going up. Tech stocks are going down though, with about an hour left in the trading day on Wall Street. The tech-heavy Nasdaq
is down more than 1.5 percent. The sell-off have been much bigger earlier in the day. Investors appear to be concerned about A.I. companies being
overvalued.
Nothing new there, I guess, but those A.I. concerns have been weighing on memory chip stocks now. And with several of the world's biggest chip
companies being based in South Korea, that country's stock index dive down 10 percent, would you believe, on Tuesday.
For a few moments earlier today, the world's biggest IPO suddenly looked like a bad deal as well. Shares of SpaceX briefly dropped below $150 a
share. That was the price for the SpaceX initial public offering. But they've recovered a bit after three days in a row of sometimes steep stock
market losses. Stock market analysts say the market was probably due for some kind of pullback.
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MOHAMED EL-ERIAN, CHIEF ECONOMIC ADVISER, ALLIANZ: Many have been expecting this sell-off because it had gotten a little bit ridiculous.
Frothy, I think, is the word that most use.
Take SpaceX. SpaceX comes in an IPO. Next thing you know, it is the fourth most valued company in the U.S., more highly valued than Amazon. And guess
what? That's no longer the case. In numbers, if you are lucky enough to get SpaceX at the IPO, today you still have 15 percent, so you're doing fine.
If, however, you bought it at the high, you're down 30 percent.
And we're talking, Becky, less than two weeks of trading, less than two weeks. And it shows you how crazy the tech part of the market had gotten.
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FOSTER: Anna Stewart's been looking into all of this stock market action.
First of all, just take us through the trigger for this latest sell off, Anna, because it's maybe not what everyone was thinking about.
ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very easy, isn't it, to see that the valuations are super high in tech, particularly when it comes to
A.I. stocks and people point to it being potentially frothy. Does it meet, for instance, the earnings potential of these companies? In many cases,
definitely not. We're looking at really high valuations versus earnings.
However, there's always a trigger. And for this sell-off, I think with SpaceX particularly yesterday, it was actually the announcement of a bomb
sale. They want to raise around $20 billion by selling more debt. Now that comes after they've just raised $86 billion in an IPO.
Now, if you're an investor, perhaps you're thinking, hang on, just how big is the cash burn for this company? Is this too much debt? Where is this
going? So that would be my first thought.
Secondly, actually, with bond sales, they're always quite interesting because shareholders who have bought into the IPO, in the case of a worse
scenario, the bondholders actually get paid first rather than shareholders. So perhaps that's played in.
But what happens with a trigger like SpaceX is that you see contagion. So we saw the SpaceX route, we saw that spread into the Asian session, the
KOSPI losing nearly 10 percent, around 10 percent, the circuit breakers even kicking in. So that index has to be stopped twice from trading, you
know, literally like a switch, flicking it off, seeing whether it can recover, flicking it off again.
So we've seen a massive route here. It's worth bearing in mind there is other stories at play. There's the Federal Reserve in the U.S. looking to
raise interest rates, you know, perhaps as early as next month. If that happens, maybe investors want to put their money into different asset
classes anyway. Maybe they're worried that these A.I. companies are boring so much money and hey, if rates go higher, it's going to cost even more --
Max.
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FOSTER: You probably can't answer this, but I'm going to ask you anyway. You know, people talk about bubble in A.I. stocks. I know there's a debate
about that, but surely based on any sort of traditional economics, there is at the moment.
STEWART: Oh, it's a tricky one. There are definitely two sides on this, and I see analyst comments on both. I think the easiest thing to say is
that, you know, some of these valuations really do not match the earnings potential. Many of these companies aren't even making a profit, but they
have really high valuations.
But I will cite Dan Ives, who is the Wedbush analyst that we love to go to. He says it's just a pullback, it's just a breather. The A.I. party
continues, Max, at least for a bit longer.
FOSTER: OK, you'll keep partying with it.
Anna, thank you.
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has arrived in the UAE for a regional tour, meant to shore up a U.S.-Iranian interim peace agreement. Rubio will
also visit Kuwait and Bahrain this week. He says he wants to reassure allies that their views will be taken into account, adding that concerns
about Iran's missile program will most certainly come up in these conversations.
Now to a CNN exclusive, though, about the downing of a U.S. fighter jet over Iran in April. Sources tell us the pilot who was rescued by Special
Forces described a shocking sight before ejecting from the aircraft. Multiple Iranian drones hovering in the air, moving in a jellyfish
formation. If accurate, it could signal a significant advance in Iran's drone warfare.
We're joined now by CNN's military analyst, Cedric Leighton. He's a retired U.S. Air Force colonel, of course.
Cedric, appreciate you joining us as ever. I mean, what was your immediate reaction when you heard about this formation?
CEDRIC LEIGHTON, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Well, one of the reactions that I had, Max, was that this seems to be a kind of a copy of a concept that the
U.S. Air Force has had, where a manned aircraft would serve as what we in American football would call the quarterback, in other words, the central
node, and then drones would be flying alongside that aircraft and would conduct separate missions as part of that. So instead of a manned aircraft
serving that central node role, you have drone, a larger drone serving that role. And that's kind of a similar architecture, at least at first
appearance, but it is basically a system that is designed to work somewhat autonomously and potentially hit multiple targets as it goes forward.
The fact that it was used against an F-15, potentially, is a certainly a significant development. And it then begs the question whether this was
something produced in Iran. I don't think so. I think it was something that came from either the Russians or the Chinese or a combination of them. But
that -- that was -- those were some of my initial thoughts when it came to hearing this story for the first time.
FOSTER: There are those who have questioned it could have been a hallucination. Just explain why they're saying that.
LEIGHTON: Well, one of the things is that the pilot did suffer a concussion when he ejected from the aircraft. And he had also been one of
the pilots that was shot down in a friendly fire incident over Kuwait a couple of weeks before this particular incident happened. So, there is a
chance that there was some kind of misinterpretation, mirage. some kind of hallucination, potentially, that could have made him see these kinds of
things.
But the pilots are, they're used to reporting what they see. They try to be as accurate as possible when these kinds of things happen, and debriefs
after a mission are part of the U.S. Air Force intelligence posture when it comes to these kinds of events.
And it's, you know, there is a chance that it was accurate. There's a chance, of course, that there was something else that was going on and it
didn't happen. But the fact that he thought of this and that he's describing it in fairly remarkable detail would indicate that perhaps it
may have actually been something that they encountered.
FOSTER: And it does suggest then, if it was real, that this formation could have shot down a US Air Force jet, which is what's shocking people,
isn't it? We're used to seeing these very cheap drones being used to sort of ram buildings, but we weren't quite aware that their technology was this
advanced.
LEIGHTON: That is -- that is correct. And one of the things that you have to look at is, you know, what kind of guidance mechanism did these drones
have? Or was it something that was controlled from the ground or from a satellite feed?
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And if so, why that wasn't captured by U.S. intelligence? Because the data links become important in a war like this. And if you can not only
understand what the data link is, but exploit that data link, that might have prevented this from standing, assuming that that was the case, that
the drones shot down, or one of the drones shot down the F-15.
I think what's most likely is that, let's say it did happen, that this kind of shocked the pilot, but that another missile, perhaps a ground-based
missile, was used to actually conduct the shoot-down. But if you're shocked like this and you see something completely unusual, you may not be paying
attention to some of the other indicators that you would have in the cockpit, that there is a hostile threat coming at you.
So there are a lot of different things that could have happened in this scenario.
FOSTER: Yeah, it's fascinating.
Cedric, thank you for giving us your analysis on that exclusive.
Now, large-scale firings underway currently at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, a source telling CNN. The source declined to give
details on how many jobs had been cut, but sources previously told CNN that Bill Pulte, President Trump's pick to be the acting chief, have been
looking to cut hundreds of jobs.
For more, our Kristen Holmes is in Washington.
I mean, there was some suspicion that this would happen, but it's pretty remarkable to happen so quickly and under an acting chief.
KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, and Max, I think that's part of why he is acting. That's why President Trump wanted
him in this job to basically go in and gut the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. And now we're hearing that he has started that
process.
So far, the people that we've actually heard of being fired, most of them were political holdovers. They were people that were brought in by Tulsi
Gabbard, obviously, Pulte wanting an absolutely clean slate here. But as we have talked to Intel officials, there's a lot of concern that doing this at
a time that the U.S. is vulnerable, that's in the middle of these conversations with or negotiations with Iran.
It's at a time when the World Cup is here, that there's going to be multiple events for the America 250th birthday celebration, something. that
we have heard are all national security events. So what we were told here is that he started to make these large scale cuts that all of the offices
were ordered to rank personnel ahead of these firings.
We did hear originally that the National Counterterrorism Center was expected to be hit hard, although I have been told just moments ago that
they are not any longer going to expect to be impacted. That was through the original sources telling us that.
Now Democrats have warned about these kind of cuts in particular. Actually, they wrote a letter before we reported that these cuts had begun. It came
from the top Democrats on both the House and Senate Intel Committee, and they wrote this letter to Pulte and essentially says this. It's pretty
scathing, but I'll read you one line.
It says, "Given your lack of experience within the intelligence community, it is difficult to imagine that in such a short amount of time you have
already developed fully informed views as to how to shrink ODNI without incurring risks to national security, making significant structural changes
to ODNI to include a reduction in force is not an appropriate course of action for anyone in an acting capacity, let alone without consultation
with Congress, and you should refrain from doing so." Of course, as we are reporting, he has not refrained from doing so, Max.
FOSTER: Senior White House correspondent Kristen Holmes in Washington. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Several long-serving Democratic members of Congress are trying to beat back challenges from further to the left today. New York primary voters are at
the polls right now. Many are choosing from a traditional Democrat and a Democratic socialist challenger. The races could be a test of the influence
of the New York mayor, Zohran Mamdani. He's been campaigning hard for several of the progressive Democratic Socialist candidates.
Our Maria Santana at a polling station in New York.
I mean, this is a fascinating litmus test, isn't it, at least for this region of the U.S.
MARIA SANTANA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, that's right. Hi. How are you, Max?
Well, voters across New York City are heading to the polls today in a series of closely watched races that could test the political power of
self-proclaimed Democratic socialist Mayor Zohran Mamdani, and that could also determine the future of the party. And one of the most closely watched
races is happening right here where I am.
This is Congressional District 13. It includes parts of Upper Manhattan and the Bronx, and this is where Democratic Congress Adriano Espaillat is
facing a surprisingly strong challenge from a more progressive candidate backed by Zohran Mamdani, Dominican American lawyer and activist at
Darializa Avila Chevalier. Now Chevalier has been involved in several controversies.
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One, she has been criticized for a tense a what has was largely seen as a pro-Hamas rally one day after the October 7th attacks in Israel and also
for some social media posts where she used some pretty offensive language to criticize ex-President Joe Biden and ex-Vice President Kamala Harris.
Now she has since deleted and apologized for those posts.
Now, meanwhile, Adriano Espaillat, one of the most influential Latinos in Congress right now, he has been banking on his experience, on his decades
long career in politics. And that's exactly what voters here are talking about. I spoke to a few of them earlier, and this is what they had to say
about the choices that they were making today.
Let's listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She is endorsed by Mamdani, but I don't think that's a reason to vote for someone, honestly.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think experience and pragmatism with New York City, with fresh ideas. And so, I think it's good that some of the people are
being challenged, because maybe that will, you know, get them coming up with those fresh ideas.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't believe it. Well, whatever they say, everything going to be free. That's not true. Nothing can be free.
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SANTANA: And of course, Max, this isn't the only race that's being closely watched here. We have Congressional District 10, where Congressman Dan
Goldman is also facing a challenge by a Mamdani-backed candidate in District 7 in Brooklyn. Longtime Congresswoman Nydia Velazquez is retiring.
Her replacement is also being -- this race is also being fought by a Mamdani-backed challenger to two state assemblymen.
So all these races taken together will obviously send a message to the Democratic Party whether the voters here in New York prefer these
establishment candidates or a new generation of progressive voices with new ideological politics -- Max.
FOSTER: Okay, Maria, we appreciate it. It's going to be fascinating to see what comes out of that.
Well, coming up in this show, Portugal's Ronaldo proving doubters wrong yet again. Details of his record-setting performance at the World Cup next.
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FOSTER: Cristiano Ronaldo has officially joined the World Cup party. The Portuguese legend netted two goals to lead his squad to a 5-nil route of
Uzbekistan and secure a spot in the knockout round. Ronaldo's brace comes on the heels of standout performances by fellow superstars Lionel Messi,
Kylian Mbappe and Erling Haaland.
Amongst other matches today, next hour, captain Harry Kane will try to propel England into the round of 32 as they take on Ghana.
So what we want to know is, has Cristiano Ronaldo finally arrived at the World Cup?
Amanda Davies is at a watch party by London's Wembley Stadium with England playing Ghana at the top of the hour. But what did they make of Ronaldo,
Amanda?
AMANDA DAVIES, CNN WORLD SPORT: Hi, Max. Welcome to the box park at Wembley. I'm afraid I can't hear you. There are so many people around here.
We're just on Wembley Way, where 90,000 people are watching Harry Styles inside. And there's a few more thousand here getting set for a watch party
for England's second game against Ghana. We've had the whole range of musical interludes, from Harry Styles and Watermelon Sugar, we now have
Shaun Williamson, He's quite niche, but viewers of EastEnders will know him as Barry. He's singing something inside so strong, hoping for a strong
performance from England.
And Harry Kane, after that incredible bar, has been set by the other superstars over the last 24 hours or so. Leo Messi setting that new all-
time World Cup goal scoring record, followed by Kylian Mbappe, Erling Haaland, and as I'm sure you've just mentioned, Cristiano Ronaldo with his
two goals this evening helping Uzbekistan or helping Portugal beat Uzbekistan. Cristiano becoming the first man to score in six World Cups.
Very much giving that as a response to people saying you shouldn't be starting. Perhaps Roberto Martinez should be phasing him out.
But now of course, it's over to Harry Kane and England up against Ghana. The top two sides in Brutal, both of them knowing that will see them
automatically qualify for the rounds of 32 with a game to spare. There have been a few concerns about England offensively after that victory over
Croatia. Thomas Tuchel, the manager, has run the changes, having received what he calls a wake-up call for this one.
But Ghana for their part are wanting to create a bit of history of their own. They haven't made it out of the group stage the last couple of World
Cups that they've taken part in. Their coach, Carlos Queiroz, only took charge 72 days before the start of the tournament, but he knows a thing or
two about guiding teams at the World Cup. This is his fifth after being at three with Iran, another one with Portugal.
He says, I know England are being talked about as the favorites for this game, but England may have three lions. We have 33 million.
FOSTER: You can't hear me, so I'm not going to ask any questions. Just hoping your voice holds out. It's very early in the World Cup.
Now, staying with the World Cup, the United States easing travel restrictions on the Iranian team. A Department of Homeland Security
spokesman says Iran will be allowed to travel from their base in Mexico to Seattle two days before their next group game against Egypt on Friday. The
team will still be required to leave the United States after the match. Iran's team has complained about the travel restrictions they've had to
face at the World Cup.
Still to come, 10 years on from Brexit, UK still feeling the ramifications of leaving the European Union.
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FOSTER: I'm Max Foster with you at the dawn of a new era for Britain and the European Union. The British people have voted to leave the European
Union. It's a decision that's having ramifications far and wide.
For David Cameron, who led the campaign for Britain to stay in the EU, the fallout was swift. With his wife, Samantha by his side behind me, Mr.
Cameron fell on his sword, saying the will of the people must be respected.
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FOSTER: Incredible moment, really, 10 years ago today, Britain voting to leave the European Union and the costs very much still being felt. The
Brexit referendum on June the 23rd 2016 marked the start of the UK's drawn- out divorce with the European Union. Economists broadly agree the decision has cost the United Kingdom economic growth and it led to a period of
political instability still being felt today. What we don't know is how has Europe changed since Britain voted to leave 10 years ago?
Joining me now, Carl Bildt, co-chair of the European Council on Foreign Relations and the former Prime Minister of Sweden, of course.
Carl, thank you so much for joining us.
I mean, I was in Downing Street when Cameron came out and announced that result. Everyone, I would say, in the mainstream, including the media, the
politicians, everyone was really shocked by the result. That was part of the problem, wasn't it? They should have seen it coming.
CARL BILDT, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF SWEDEN: They should have seen it coming, and some saw it coming, but clearly David Cameron misjudged the
situation. I think Boris Johnson, the game he played was of critical importance. I think David had counted on Boris supporting him, and then
Boris turned around and became -- and he's a fierceful, effective campaigner. Totally ruthless.
But he turned around and became one of the chief campaigners for the Brexit. And I think that was unfortunately fairly decisive.
FOSTER: And I was in Downing Street again yesterday because another prime minister going, we could well have seven within 10 years. And if you track
it back, it does take you to Brexit, doesn't it? Bit of a sensitive issue because people would argue it wasn't all down to Brexit, but it is -- you
know, that is when British political instability started.
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BILDT: It is. And one of the reasons for it is that, yeah, they decided to leave the European Union, but they hadn't really a clue what to do instead.
So what you saw coming then in the subsequent years was attempts to find some sort of solution. What do we do now? What's our relationship with the
rest of Europe? And what's our trading arrangements?
And that led to fairly severe turmoil. And a couple of prime ministers disappeared on that one. And since then, it's been a fairly volatile
political environment in the UK, sorry to say.
FOSTER: How's Europe changed then because of this?
BILDT: I think Europe has both weakened. No question about that. We were stronger with the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom was a strong voice
inside the European Union and the U.K. added weight and importance to the E.U. No question about that.
But at the same time, we are strengthened because that at the time, there were perhaps discussion in other countries as well, should we do the same
and do we really need this European Union? And I think the example of Brexit has solidified the unity of the European Union. And no one,
absolutely no one, having seen the fairly disastrous performance of Brexit, is contemplating leaving the European Union.
So, yeah, it's weak in one respect due to the absence of the U.K. but stronger in itself and in its determination to move forward.
FOSTER: Andy Burnham, in the past, I'm sure you've seen the comments, he's the guy tipped to take over in Downing Street. He said, hasn't he, that he
would like to see Britain back in the European Union one day. I mean, there's a U.K. question on that. There's also the Brussels question about
whether Europe would want Britain back and what conditions that would be under.
BILDT: Yeah, and these are big issues. I don't think we're going to see, I mean, what you see today, according to the opinion polls in the U.K., is
that most people would like to go back. They consider the Brexit vote a mistake.
But that's easier said than done. If they were to apply once again, it would be a complicated process of negotiating entry again, and I think it
would be fairly divisive inside the U.K., in spite of the majority opinion for it at the moment, and there would be some, I would say questions in the
E.U. whether the U.K. really wanted to join or whether one would enter into a new drama of some sort.
So we'll see. For the time being, I mean, efforts are there to improve relationships. There was a summit between the E.U. and the U.K. planned for
the next few weeks. That's now been cancelled because the E.U. doesn't think it's reasonable to have summit with an outgoing prime minister, and
they will wait for the new prime minister. Let's see if that can produce anything.
FOSTER: Yeah, we will see. We might find out sooner than many people think. It could be in by July, I think. Carl Bildt, really appreciate your
time. Thank you.
In a moment, we'll be looking at how British towns have coped with the last decade. First, though, it is the final moments of trade on Wall Street. The
Dow actually is flat. It managed to avoid the heavier selling that we've seen on the tech sector today.
This is our Business Breakout.
Oracle shedding some 21,000 employees globally in the last year, according to an annual report released on Monday. That amounts to about 13 percent
reduction in its workforce. Tech giants in the U.S. are reshaping their business around artificial intelligence.
The FAA is bringing in a new A.I. tool to help cut down on flight delays and cancellations. The technology will help spot congestion and weather
issues and also flag potential conflicts. It's part of the $875 million effort to modernize the system.
Meta has announced a new line of smart glasses, including a model designed by Kylie Jenner. The new A.I.-powered glasses will start at $299, a cheaper
price point than their Ray-Ban range. They can play music, translate languages, and answer questions about your surroundings whilst you're
wearing them.
So we've heard the European view on the decade since the Brexit vote. For communities here in the UK, the economic impact is still unfolding.
Anna Cooban reports on how one town has changed.
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LUCY PHILIPS, DECKHAND: I'm probably one of the few remainers on this beach, if not the only one.
ANNA COOBAN, CNN BUSINESS & ECONOMICS REPORTER (voice-over): In Britain, a decade of division. Back in 2016, nearly 34 million people answered a
deceptively simple question, to leave or remain in the European Union. The answer was to go.
The U.K.'s fishing industry, small though once mighty, became a flash point in the big Brexit debate, one that is still raging today in coastal towns
like Hastings.
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PHILIPS: Personally, my heart was never a leaver, and it seems to bring nothing but complications, Brexit to a lot of people, whether that's your
job or import, export, or your right to travel and study.
COOBAN (voice-over): Many fishermen, like Roland, voted leave to get more control over British waters.
ROLAND KELLY, FISHERMAN: I voted for Brexit. I believe most of us beach voted for Brexit. We all wanted to be independent. The big problem was at
the time the fishing industry was actually a big bargaining tool.
COOBAN: Your concerns around the fishing industry, that was the main reason, the way you voted, the way you did.
KELLY: I just -- no, I would like to have seen Great Britain great again.
COOBAN: If you could describe Brexit in one word, what would it be?
KELLY: Failure for a fisherman, definitely, our paperwork has gone threefold. It's more difficult now exporting fish.
COOBAN: Everyone in the U.K. has a story to tell about Brexit, where they were, how they felt, and quite frankly, the arguments they had with family
and friends. It's an economic issue, it's a political issue, but it's also about identity. It's highly emotional, and it's about the way that Britain
sees itself in the world, and it seems in 2026 that those divisions are still very much in place.
COOBAN (voice-over): The Brexit vote catapulted the U.K. into years of political turmoil, with six prime ministers in just the past decade. Olafs
has owned his fish and chip shop for about the same length of time.
COOBAN: And you're Latvian.
OLAFS MEZPAPNS, OWNER OF NEPTUNE FISH & CHIPS: Yes, I'm Latvian. Yes.
COOBAN: How did you feel as a European when --
MEZPAPNS: I never have any racism for me, you know? So, I'm follow the English rules, you know, and then try to integrate all the fish and chip
shops have a little bit more struggle now. Yeah.
COOBAN: So, Hastings is really an in-between kind of place. It's actually closer to France than it is to London. And 10 years ago, you had 55 percent
of voters saying they wanted to leave the E.U. and 45 percent saying they wanted to stay. And just by going around here today and talking to people,
it's quite clear that the feelings about Brexit, about the wisdom of it, whether or not they voted stay or to leave, and whether or not it really
delivered what people thought it would.
Those emotions are still running quite high.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What better thing to talk about on a nice sunny day 10 years later?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe it was the right thing to do to leave, in my opinion.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I felt powerless because I wasn't able to vote. Now I speak to my older family members, and they do regret a lot of the things
that they were led to believe at that time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just having to grow up in a kind of post-Brexit economy, everything's a little bit more expensive now. Everything's harder.
COOBAN: You could describe Brexit in one word, what would it be?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mistake.
COOBAN: Did you vote to leave?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I vote to leave. Yeah. I think I would have voted differently if I'd have known what it is today.
COOBAN (voice-over): Before I left, there was one question I needed answering, and I knew just the person to ask.
COOBAN: Salter (ph), I need to know, are we ever going to stop talking about Brexit?
COOBAN (voice-over): Anna Cooban, CNN, Hastings.
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FOSTER: Still to come, an update on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, plus Savannah Guthrie's emotional appeal on morning TV.
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FOSTER: NBC News anchor Savannah Guthrie says her family is living in agony. It comes after newly revealed information on the disappearance of
her mother, Nancy Guthrie. Multiple law enforcement sources tell CNN a note connected to the case claims that Guthrie died during the February
kidnapping. It followed a first note that demanded a ransom of millions of dollars. Investigators believe they are legitimate communications from her
kidnappers.
Tuesday morning, Savannah Guthrie gave an emotional on-air plea for answers.
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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, NBC "TODAY SHOW" HOST: I can't pretend I'm not here. And so since I am, I wanted to just take the opportunity to ask people to
really to beg people to come forward. Somebody knows something. And this is a new story today that is on your radar, but this is the life that my
sister lives, that I live, that my brother lives, that our extended families live, that our children live every day. And we are in agony. And
we cannot be at peace.
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FOSTER: CNN's Ed Lavandera now explains this new revelation and what it means to this case.
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ED LAVANDERA, CNN SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The Pima County Sheriff's Department in Tucson, Arizona, says that the investigation into Nancy
Guthrie's disappearance remains active and ongoing. This comes nearly five months after Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home in Tucson, Arizona in
the middle of the night. And it also comes as there are reports now that the second note that the ransom note that investigators received shortly
after Guthrie's disappearance confirmed or said that she had died shortly after being kidnapped.
Remember in those early days of this investigation, law enforcement officials and the Guthrie family were receiving multiple ransom notes, some
of them clearly deemed to be fake, but there were a few that seemed legitimate. And law enforcement officials say that the first letter from
this particular person was demanding millions of dollars in a ransom. And then it was the second note that said that Nancy Guthrie had died shortly
after being kidnapped.
CNN and a local news station in Arizona in Tucson were aware the contents of that letter. We were asked by law enforcement officials not to report
the contents so that investigators can continue confirming the details and the identity of whoever was sending these letters. So they asked us to hold
that back so they could continue their investigation. But now, nearly five months into this, and remember, in the early days of those, in that
investigation, the Guthrie family did put out a letter which seemed to respond to one of those ransom letters directly.
Savannah Guthrie in one of those first videos says that we got your letter and we understand a clear reference to the information in that letter that
talked about Nancy Guthrie being dead. But it has been an excruciatingly painful nearly five months for the Guthrie family. Savannah Guthrie on her
morning show, "The Today Show" in the U.S., talked this morning about just the pain that the family is going through. Once again, urging whoever knows
where she might be to come forward and share that information with investigators in the family.
Remember, there is still a more than $1 million reward in this case for information that leads them to where Nancy Guthrie might be. The Guthrie
family clearly believes there is someone still out there who holds that information, and they're desperately hoping that they come forward so that
they could find where Nancy Guthrie might be today.
Ed Lavandera, CNN, Dallas.
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FOSTER: I just had some we've just had some breaking news from Washington. The U.S. Senate has just ordered President Donald Trump to remove military
forces from the conflict with Iran.
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Several Republicans joined Democrats in voting for this resolution. It's a huge rebuke to the U.S. president. We'll have more on this breaking news
after the break.
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FOSTER: Let's get back to that breaking news. The U.S. Senate now adopting a resolution directing President Donald Trump to remove military forces
from the conflict with Iran. Several Republicans joined Democrats in voting for this resolution. It's a significant rebuke to the us president.
But Manu Raju, who's on this story.
I mean, this also takes away a lot of his positioning with Iran, doesn't it?
MANU RAJU, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, look, it's a rebuke, a symbolic rebuke, though, Max, so just to be clear, it's not
actually going to force the president to do anything differently, but it's a real sign of the concern within Congress and among some Republicans that
the way the president has been waging this war needs to change, because what this measure would actually do if it were actually to carry the force
of laws, that it would say that the president cannot escalate hostilities with Iran until coming back to the United States Congress, it's actually
would end the conflict altogether without getting explicit approval from the United States Congress.
And of course, the president wants to be to have his party totally united behind his strategy. But a real sign here that there is some reservation
within the ranks on the Senate Republican Conference. There are four Republicans who voted with 46 Democrats just now. It passed by the
narrowest of margins of 50 to 48 vote.
Those four Republicans, two of them were moderate Republican senators, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Senator Rand Paul, a more
libertarian-minded senator who opposes foreign intervention, voted with the Democrats on this measure, as he consistently does.
And Senator Bill Cassidy, someone who's been notable to watch because he was one of those Republican senators who Trump pushed out of the GOP,
pushed out of his Senate seat by endorsing his primary challenger earlier this year. Cassidy has returned to the Senate and has broken with the
president a number of key issues, this being one of them, and providing this decisive vote here in the United States Senate when comes to Iran. So
it just shows you the politics. We're all different for some of these members and how they decided to proceed here.
But it does follow what happened and we saw in the United States House just a couple of weeks ago when the House GOP and how they decided to proceed
here. But it does follow what happened and we saw in the United States House just a couple of weeks ago when the House GOP handful of them voted
with House Democrats to do something similar.
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They passed the same piece of legislation out of their chamber by the narrowest of margins.
The House Republican leadership at that time did everything they could to try to kill this measure, including adjourning the chamber early one day
when going on to recess. They ultimately had to come back in the session had passed.
So it has been an arduous task by the proponents of this measure to see it finally passed both chambers of Congress, but it does nothing more than
sending a message to the president. He doesn't have to change course, but it's a sign here of concern within the ranks, including the Republican
ranks, over the way this war is being waged, Max.
FOSTER: Okay, Manu, really appreciate it. Fascinating move there in Washington.
I'm Max Foster. That is WHAT WE KNOW. Do stay with CNN.
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