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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: -- it to visits over a period of a year, a year and a half.

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So they get 20 percent of what they would have gotten in one big shot, a big shot like the size of a large glass of something.

This announcement is a major victory for parents' rights, religious and constitutional rights, and for the gold standard science, and we will

continue to do the research and update the recommendations as we learn more. And I think you're going to see some amazing results. I'm breaking it

up.

It's not only that you're doing fewer vaccines or jabs, as they say, but you're doing them in a series of visits to the doctor -- much smaller

amounts. To ensure Americans benefit from these recommendations, my administration is fully committed to using every tool at our disposal,

including a review of potential funding and finding. Frankly, we're doing funding and we're doing findings, and the findings will be announced almost

immediately as we gain some strong surety.

So, now, I'd like to have Bobby say a few words, followed by Jay, Heidi, and Jamie, and then I'll sign the executive order, which I'm very excited

about, because I came in and I said, I want to find what's going on with autism. It's many, many times what it used to be years ago, and it gets

progressively worse, and we had progressively more and more vaccines.

So, in a nutshell, and you can see it through this, we're breaking up the vaccines and we're breaking them up in two time periods. Okay? Not so

complicated. And we think we're going to have a tremendous result from doing that.

Very simply, large amounts of vaccine, large amounts of like vats of vaccine are currently pumped into your child's body. And we're doing 20

percent of that at each visit. And we'll let time elapse between visits so the body can handle this massive amount of fluid being pumped in. And I

think it's going to make a big difference.

You know, there are some groups that have virtually no problem with autism. And they -- you know, I have to say this. They're groups that aren't big

into the world of vaccines. So there's something wrong when we see record numbers all the time every year for years and years, every year, gets

higher, higher, higher autism, and we think we have a very good recommendation, and a lot of good things are happening. We're going to be

releasing some very detailed paper.

Here's another one, European countries versus the United States. Look at that. These are high level very medically powerful European countries. You

see the top, that little chart says a lot, but that's the difference.

So, with that, I'd like to have Bobby say a few words, please, and then we'll go to the others. Please, Bobby.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR., HHS SECRETARY: Thank you, Mr. President.

I want to start by just reinforcing something that the President said, which is the source of his concern about this issue, and I'll just give an

example. In 1970, the biggest epidemiological study at that time in history was performed. And the university scientists from across this country

looked at all the eight-year-olds in Wisconsin, about 900,000 children. And they were looking for autism, and they knew what autism looked like. And

they came back with an incidental rate of 0.8 per 10,000, so less than one in 10,000.

The rate, according to CDC today in this country, is one in every 31 children. In California, it's one in every 19 children, one in every 12.5

boys. There has been a dramatic increase. One of the things that the industry likes to say, one of the talking boys, which the press loves to

parrot, is, oh, we're just noticing it more.

But this is an absurdity, and this is an assertion that has been debunked again and again and again by peer-reviewed literature. It's also debunked

by common sense because we were just noticing it more. We would notice it in older groups, but we're not. We're only noticing it in kids who were

born around 1989 or after.

The older generations, you're not seeing those increases, so something happened in the mid-'90s, that changed our children. And it has to be an

environmental exposure, because genes don't cause epidemics. It can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin.

And what the president has charged us with is finding which one of those exposures or which collection of exposures are causing this epidemic.

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For decades, I fought for a simple principle. When it comes to the health of our children, government has an obligation to follow the evidence

wherever it leads. Tell the American people the truth and give parents the information they need to make informed decisions for their families.

Mr. President, you gave us a mandate to do just that. You directed HHS to examine America's childhood vaccine recommendations against the best

available science and the practices of other developed nations. We did that work on January 5th. HHS and the CDC overhauled the childhood immunization

schedule, reducing the number of diseases universally recommended for vaccines from 17 to 11, and establishing distinct categories of

recommendations based upon the scientific evidence.

Our assessment found that the United States recommended more childhood vaccines than any other peered nation. As Trump mentioned the number, it's

72 jabs before 18, but it actually could be up to 94 jabs. And nobody else has anything like that.

And then many other countries or most other countries achieve high vaccination rates. through education, informed consent, and public trust

rather than mandates. Today with this executive order, you are building on that work and acting on that evidence.

We will preserve access to vaccines, strengthen safety monitoring, expand research, give doctors and parents better information, and restore informed

consent and parental choice to their rightful place in American medicine. At HHS, we are already moving. across multiple agencies -- FDA, CDC, NIH,

ARPA-H, NTP, the National Toxicity Program, and other parts of the department.

We have already launched unprecedented research effort examining vaccine safety and long-term health outcomes in American children. We are putting

some of the largest health data sets in the country to work, including --

ISA SOARES, CNN HOST: Well, you have been listening to the U.S. health secretary, and previously we heard from President Trump, who is about to

sign an executive order on vaccines, reducing the number of vaccines. The secretary of health was talking about reducing from 17 to 11. This, of

course, comes as the school year is about to begin.

Vaccinations for hepatitis B, COVID-19, influenza, among others, no longer recommended for all children, talking about breaking them up into different

-- giving them out in different stages, particularly in the question of MMR, so wants them given in three separate times. And then making a link

between autism and some of these vaccines.

I will say there's been more than enough evidence and proof that there is no link between that, and I can give you that. Independent researchers

across seven countries have conducted. This is CNN conducted more than 40 studies involving over 5.6 million people to conclude that there is no link

between vaccines and autism. This is Dr. Sean O'Leary, a professor of pediatrics.

Let's get more from our Jackie Howard.

And, Jackie, I mean, the reason I mention this is because President Trump said on numerous cases, you know, he said decades ago, children received a

fraction of the vaccines. They were healthier, and the high rates of autism did not exist. So, there's a reason for such epidemic rates of autism.

First of all, give me your take on why we're seeing this such a change, of course, in the vaccines and in reducing the number of vaccines from this

administration.

JACQUELINE HOWARD, CNN HEALTH REPORTER: This has been, like you said, a message from the administration for some time now, wanting to change the

childhood vaccine schedule. And like you said, they want to take a closer look into a possible link between vaccines and autism, even though

scientific, rigorous studies and scientific research have proven repeatedly that there is no link.

But I'll give a quick review of what the executive order says it plans to do here. In the executive order, it looks like the plan is to separate

childhood immunizations into three different categories. The first category includes immunizations recommended for all children, and that does include

the MMR measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. It includes other examples polio, HPV vaccine, whooping cough and others.

The second group includes immunizations recommended for certain high-risk groups. This second group includes vaccinations like RSV, hepatitis A,

hepatitis B. Then there's a third group where these include immunizations, based on shared decision making between the patient and their doctor.

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This group includes the COVID-19 vaccine, influenza.

Now, all of the vaccines that I mentioned, all of the vaccines in all groups were previously recommended for all children through the childhood

vaccination schedule. Now it looks like the administration is separating these vaccines into these different groups, which may cause some confusion

among parents. This is a dramatic shift from what we've seen so far, and it does pivot away from what the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends as

well.

SOARES: Right, so on that, was this expected? And what is the community (ph) of the pediatrics? How did they react to this? Because obviously they

are the experts here.

HOWARD: That's right. And it will be interesting to see their reaction because when the administration previously attempted to overhaul the

childhood vaccination program, the American Academy of Pediatrics did come out strongly against that. So, it is -- all eyes are really on the experts

and on the American Academy of Pediatrics to see what their response to this will be.

SOARES: Yeah, indeed. I know you'll stay across it for us, Jackie. Thank you very much indeed.

Let's go to Alayna Treene. I think we have her at the White House joining us now.

Alayna, I'm sure you -- oh, we do have you. Fantastic. I'm sure you were listening there to the secretary of health and to President Trump. What do

you make of this overhaul, not from a medical point of view, but most importantly, from a political move here? How do you interpret this and the

timing of this?

ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: There's a few different really interesting parts to your question, Isa. One is that this has been

something that the president has talked about for months now. And as Jackie pointed out, something as well that you know, scientists and different

medical groups have warned against because of the point that you've been making. He said that there is no research showing that there is a tie

between vaccines and autism.

But again, it's something that the president has been fixated on and he's actually told his Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to look into

this.

Now I will say we knew that this was coming. We knew that in order of this like this was expected to come, but there has been some internal dialogue

within the West Wing from the president's political advisers who were a bit worried, as you mentioned, the timing of a lot of this because this is

controversial and this is something that some of his advisors have been telling the president. You know, right before the midterms. This might not

be a smart move to have this come.

But the president went ahead with it today and obviously the White House trying to tout this as a step in a direction that would line it up with

other countries despite again, a lot of the backlash we're hearing from medical experts and groups on this front, Isa.

SOARES: Alayna Treene there at the White House, thank you very much, Alayna. I appreciate it.

We're continuing across the story and keep an ear out on the president. Of course, anything else he says will bring it to your attention.

We are continuing to follow other breaking news this hour. We've seen rescue crews desperately searching for survivors after a powerful

earthquake in Colombia.

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SOARES: This is the city of Cali. The president says at least 111 people have been killed and dozens injured in the 7.4 magnitude quake, the

strongest in the country in a decade. Colombia's government has declared a state of national disaster, and the crisis is a very early test for

President Abelardo de la Espriella, who took office, just remember, on Friday. Today is his first day, the first Monday on the job.

Our Cecilia Dominguez has more now from Argentina.

Cecilia, I mean, the numbers keep rising. The government, first Monday on the job, very quick to act. Give us a sense of what the government is doing

that needs to do in these urgent hours.

CECILIA DOMINGUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Isa. Well, as you said, at least 111 people died this Monday morning in different cities of Colombia. More

than 1,500 houses affected by the earthquake. We've been updating this figure in the last couple of hours. And the Colombian government, as you

said, has declared a state of national disaster because of this 7.4 magnitude earthquake, a very powerful earthquake.

We are talking about the strongest earthquake in the country in the last decade. And declaring a state of national disaster will help, according to

the government, to mobilize extra resources to the most affected regions.

You know, it's been more than six hours, almost seven hours to mobilize extra resources to the most affected regions. You know, it's been more than

six hours, almost seven hours from the earthquake, and authorities are still assessing the extent of the damage.

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We are now hearing reports of serious damage in several cities, particularly Cali, Pereira, Manizales, Quibdo and Armenia. Several

buildings have been affected and rescue teams have already injured people from the rubble, while others are still believed to be unfortunately

trapped. The airports in Pereira and Quibdo have also been affected.

And, for example, in Cali, we learned a while ago that several patients are trapped under the rubble of a partially fallen hospital, according to a

local official. The hospital is among at least seven health institutions in Cali, just in Cali, that have been closed and evacuated because of the

structural damage.

In total, more than 20 buildings have collapsed in Cali, just in Cali. And as you mentioned, Isa, Colombian President Abelardo de la Espriella has

convened an emergency committee to address the damage. He said he's heading to Bogota to focus on addressing the emergency facing our country. That's

what he wrote.

And he was just sworn in as president, as you said before. So, it's his first huge challenge, I would say, in office to try to deal with this

tragedy. And for many Colombians, Isa, the images of the devastating earthquakes in Venezuela just over a month and a half ago are still very

fresh in their minds.

In Colombia, this morning, people were seeing -- well, we're watching some of the images of what happened this morning in Colombia. But people were

seen screaming, grasping each other in fear in many videos on social media. They had the chance to share some of these videos on social media. And they

were also seen walking in the destruction and searching for survivors. Imagine how strong it was that it was also felt in different parts of

Venezuela.

So, as you know, in this type of stories or tragedies, it may take a while to assess the full extent of the earthquake, Isa. For now, authorities are

asking people to remain calm while emergency crews continue searching for those who may be still trapped under the rubble. That's the priority.

That's what the government said is the priority right now, Isa.

SOARES: Cecilia, thank you very much. Of course, thinking of everyone in Colombia as they go through this. Appreciate it. Good to see you, Cecilia.

Well, one person who experienced the quake firsthand is my own sister-in- law, Olguita. She joins me now from Kaleen, Colombia.

Olguita, good to see you.

Look, we're in the WhatsApp group for the family. The minute it happened, we were all messaging each other and you were among the first. You couldn't

reach your mom and you were so worried, but you were talking about on WhatsApp about the strength of that earthquake.

What was that moment like, Olguita? Tell us what you saw and what you felt.

OLGUITA QUINTERO, EARTHQUAKE EYEWITNESS: Hi, Isa. Yes, today is a really scary day here in Cali. I was at the office, so I felt a strong sound

coming from the floor, and we just realized that that was an earthquake. So, we start to walk into the exit and the earthquake was getting stronger

and stronger. So, it was really, really scary for us.

When we go out to the -- we went out to the building, the ground still moving, was still moving. So, it was a long moment and really scary. After

that, the electricity, of course, stopped working and also the communication.

And at this moment, as you said, I was trying to talk with everybody, with my family, with you, with my mom, with my husband and kids.

SOARES: Yeah.

QUINTERO: And I received -- I just started receiving messages, short messages just saying, I'm okay, I'm well, so I was good. until I was the

last person that I talked with, it was my mom. So, I couldn't talk with her. So yeah, so after that, I --

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SOARES: And I know, Olgita, sorry to interrupt, I know that your mom was very shaken because she was also -- we were trying to get in contact with

her. What I thought it was also -- I mean, you were clearly very shaken, I got that sense, on social media, on your -- on WhatsApp, and quite rightly

so.

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And then you shared a photo, Olguita, of the building where you were working. This happened at, what, 7:34 in the morning? As you are talking,

we are looking at images of a building that has collapsed in Cali. Something like 20 buildings have collapsed.

And your building where you work, I mean, basically, there are cracks everywhere. That must have been a shock as you came out and you looked up

and you saw that.

QUINTERO: No, it was so scary because it's -- it was not only the building that I work, it's many buildings around. I saw the lines in the building,

and after that, and the things, I don't know how to say in English, but the things falling on the street from the building, like, yeah, it's what's

really scary.

SOARES: Goodness. And what is happening now?

QUINTERO: Yeah.

SOARES: I know you're just a bit -- in Cali, in Cali, what have you seen outside on the streets, Olguita, as people -- I've been seeing people

moving buildings trying to get to people under the rubble. What have you seen?

QUINTERO: The traffic is terrible. So, my work is in the other side of the city where I live. So, it's too long. It was way long to get home. And of

course you can, I could see a building fall down and everything really, really bad in the city.

And now in this moment, for example, the family that lives here, like my mother-in-law, another sister-in-law, they are trying to get here to my

home because there are buildings, the structure is damaged. So, they are going to stay with us.

SOARES: Yeah, and that's the best thing to do. Authorities are saying, telling people that if buildings are cracked structurally, that is a

concern to stay away from those buildings.

Olguita, I'm so glad that you are well, that everyone is well. Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for taking the time to speak to us on the show.

I'll speak to you on the WhatsApp, but my thoughts, of course, with everyone in Colombia as they go through this horrific earthquake.

Thank you very much, Olguita. Good to see you.

We're going to take a short break. We'll back in a moment.

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SOARES: Welcome back.

There are few Democrats in Congress as polarizing as Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez. The congresswoman, seen as the standard-bearer for the progressive left, says she has not ruled out a run for president in 2028.

Early polls have placed Ocasio-Cortez among the leading Democratic contenders in the next presidential cycle. But she says she is focused, for

now, on winning the midterms.

Have a listen.

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REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ (D-NY): I haven't -- well, I haven't ruled out the possibility, and I'm very humbled to the tremendous amount of

support out there. I think that we have a responsibility to remain focused on the midterms and not on our individual aspirations or plans?

JONATHAN KARL, ABC NEWS HOST: And running for Senate against Chuck Schumer, is that also something that's possible?

OCASIO-CORTEZ: I mean, I think that anything is possible at this juncture.

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SOARES: Anything is possible.

What we don't know is, could AOC make a run for the White House?

Joining me now is the Democratic strategy, Christy Setzer.

Christy, welcome to the show.

Now AOC has said she hasn't ruled out, as you heard there, running for president in 2028. And now we've also heard of publicly documenting, right,

her decision to freeze her eggs. I want to play this little clip because our viewers may not have heard. Have a listen to this, Christy.

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OCASIO-CORTEZ: I have made the decision to start freezing my eggs. This is a choice that I am making to feel more in control of my life. And if people

want to make assumptions about my decision, let them make those assumptions. I feel empowered to make this choice.

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SOARES: Good on her.

So, Christy, I mean, your interpretation -- how do you see these two things, the not ruling out 2028 and then obviously the freezing her eggs?

Are they connected at all or is it important in your view not to read political ambition into a deeply personal decision?

SETZER: I'd say they are slightly connected which is to say that look by telling the world that she is freezing her eggs, of course, she's being

very vulnerable and honest and it's also incredibly politically canny of her because look, she knows what the caricature is of her that has been

painted by Republicans and she's humanizing herself she is showing that -- look, I'm a 36-year-old woman who's thinking about starting a family. She's

engaged. She's talking about this.

If she's going to run for president, turns out that American voters really like it when candidates have a family, right? This is why you've seen a lot

of rollouts of secret girlfriends from other political candidates ahead of their launches. So that's part of it. She also started to turn it into a

messaging moment, right? She talked about how it is difficult as a 36-year- old woman under the Trump administration to feel like your rights are being taken away, especially your reproductive rights.

And so, she is speaking to people not just as you know, a woman, not just as someone who's young in the party, at a time when we're having an intense

debate within the Democratic Party about maybe some of our leaders are just too old, right? She's really putting herself out there in a way that, yes,

is personal and is also quite political.

SOARES: Look, as a woman, I'm going to be honest, I do find this particularly powerful, right? I don't remember being a university or other

college and hearing politicians talk about, okay, in her case, fertility, others, ambition, relationship, even the precious, Christy, of balancing a

career and a family.

How would this be received, you think, in the United States politically?

SETZER: I think it's very well-received. I mean, it's just so relatable. I have a 10-year-old son, obviously. I have also thought about how to balance

my career with being a good mom, with thinking about planning your family. It just relates to so many different people and the stresses that they are

feeling right now.

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And there's also, I mean, as you know, pregnancy and childbirth are also economic issues. So again, by putting her own personal story at the front

of it, she gets to talk about these issues in a way that is so deeply relatable to millions and millions of Americans and particularly, frankly,

again, to women who will be core to her support.

I think I want to, you know, change the conversation slightly though and say that the bulk of her appeal actually has not really been about gender

issues it's been that she's occupied this lane that is sort of anti- corporate, let's tax the billionaires, the people versus the powerful and that is frankly what she's most been known for up until this point. And

it's a message that appeals certainly to younger voters, obviously to progressive Democrats you know, part of the Democratic base.

But also to a group that we would call these anti-system voters, right? The people who say it's all broken, all politicians are crooked, right? And

that goes across party lines, certainly. Those were people that found both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders compelling.

SOARES: Yeah, and it's interesting that you brought that up, Christy, because you do get a different side to it. There is an authenticity when

you're open about your personal life that the voters like, but also turning into a question of women's autonomy and choice, which is so important.

On the question of 2028, just turning to the political, do you think she's going to run for it? She's not ruling it out. How did you -- how did you

interpret that?

SETZER: You know, up until this point, I would have told you that I thought it was far more likely that she would run against Chuck Schumer

than that she would actually, again at age 36, run for president. But with her putting it on the table, I don't know. I think she looks to see how it

plays out.

One other dynamic that I would say is that when you're when we're talking about who are the Democrats that are considering running in 2028, the only

other woman who is consistently part of that conversation is Kamala Harris, the woman who ran last time. And so, it's a very male-dominated field on

both sides. And she would be running against a very male-dominated administration in the Trump administration, right?

So, there's a lot of -- there's a wide lane for her to pursue here.

SOARES: Really fascinating discussion. Christy, thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us. Christy Setzer there in Washington, D.C. --

thank you.

SETZER: Thank you.

SOARES: And still to come right here on the show, devastation, as we've been showing you in Colombia, as rescue crews work to clear out the rubble

to try and reach trapped survivors following that powerful earthquake. That's after the break.

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SOARES: More now on our breaking news as a powerful earthquake rocks Colombia.

The country's new president just last hour announced more than 111 people have died in that 7.4 magnitude quake. As you can see, their buildings

collapsing into a heap of rubble, sending terrified crowds running in search, desperately in search of cover.

This is in Pereira. Rescue crews now trying to find those trapped under mounds of debris. More than 60 buildings have crumbled to the ground.

Let's get more now from our guests. What we want to know is why did this earthquake cause so much damage in Colombia?

Joining me now is Jeffrey Park. He's a seismologist and a professor of earth sciences at Yale. Thank you so much for being with us.

It is, I mean, not just how strong it was, but how deep it was, Jeffrey. What stood out to you from this earthquake? Because it comes off the back

what a month or so ago in Venezuela, which I covered.

JEFFREY PARK, SEISMOLOGIST: Yes, yes. And I made comments for CNN at that time. And this earthquake is about the same size, but it's much deeper.

It's 100 kilometers beneath the surface inside of a subducting slab from the Nazca plate off of the Pacific Ocean.

And it's because it's deep, then all the places on the surface are at least 100 kilometers from the rupture itself. And so, the intensity of shaking is

somewhat less than we saw in the peak regions in Venezuela. However, this is a region that has not had an earthquake of this size. in almost 100

years.

And so, the buildings are not, the building structures may not be as earthquake resistant as they might be in Venezuela. And so, then they've

been tested and sometimes found wanting.

SOARES: Yeah, and I think there was something like 20 buildings structurally, I mean, structurally very poor right now. We're looking at

footage as you're talking, Jeffrey, of buildings that completely fell upon themselves, crumbled in Cali, Colombia.

What, I mean -- for those who don't know in terms of the geology of Colombia, how does that affect the intensity of the shaking? Because this

was felt all the way, if we bring a map up, I'm just going to get my producer to bring a map up. This was felt all the way to Bogota, and then

it felt in other neighboring countries. Speak to that.

PARK: Yes, yes, that's because the earthquake is deep, its effectiveness is over a much wider area. It's not concentrated right where the earthquake

is in the epicentral region. Its maximum shaking was like a circle may be centered on the epicenter and at least 150 kilometers around it would have

experience strong shaking, not very strong shaking, but strong shaking enough to really test the infrastructure.

And this is -- this -- so it -- so the shaking is very widespread. And so, it's going to sometimes be amplified whenever you have a region that has

soft sediments. It's also -- and this is a concern that you're not showing up yet. But in the mountains where those steep hillsides are, it's very

likely to have induced a number of landslides. And that could have caused a lot of damage that we're not going to hear about for some days.

SOARES: Yeah, I think you I think you're right. The area of Choco, the Department of Choco, that might be a concern in the coming days. A very

good point that you raised, Jeffrey.

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Thank you so much for talking to us. Jeffrey Park's there. Thank you.

Now, the final moments of trade on Wall Street would be 3:39 or so, and stocks are mostly lower. The Dow has been in the red for most of the

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This is our Business Breakout.

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Now, Mark Zuckerberg says we may be about to see the most amazing decades in humanity's history, all thanks to artificial intelligence. The CEO of

Meta has released a 6,000-word manifesto about the future of A.I. where he says everyone stands to benefit from the technology.

He writes this, "Humanity has witnessed many transformative advances. Each time there is fear that people will be left behind. But each time humanity

has come out with more people sharing greater prosperity, health, and freedom. We believe this will be true with A.I. as well, and the abundance

of the future can be shared by everyone."

Our A.I. correspondent Hadas Gold is in New York.

So, Hadas, I mean, 6,000-word manifesto, it sounds great on paper. What does that actually reveal?

HADAS GOLD, CNN A.I. CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think Mark Zuckerberg is trying to stake his claim as the A.I. optimist in the face of what he sees

is a lot of pessimism and doom about AI, what it's going to do to people's jobs, what you know, open models going rogue, hacking into other companies.

He's trying to show that he is the one who believes that A.I. is actually going to do only good for us in the future.

He is also arguing in this manifesto, though in favor of open source and open weight technology, there's kind of a long-running debate in the A.I.

world right now about the having an open A.I. model or closed one. The closed ones are what we all know from ChatGPT, from OpenAI, from Anthropic.

They tend to be much more advanced, but the companies control everything about these models, but they say that makes them more secure.

Open weight models though, are where you can customize. They are smaller. They can often live on your own machines on your own servers. They tend to

also be cheaper.

And Mark Zuckerberg, whose company, Meta, just launched a brand-new open- weight model, open-weight A.I. model today is trying to argue for this technology, saying they will help democratize access that all of the

technological advances we've had in the past have come from, every day, you know, scientists and engineers who were just tinkering around in their

garages and created the wonderful products that we all use today, really trying to argue in favor of this, saying that one of the most important

questions of this current age of technology is whether A.I. will be centralized and restrictive or a tool that empowers everyone.

And so, as I noted, Meta today launched a new open-weight model that they say is powerful enough to be your personal A.I. agent and help you to

schedule your things and read your emails. But small enough that it can actually just live on your own personal computer because a lot of these

open-weight A.I. models, especially, you know, even bigger closed ones, they require a lot of memory, a lot of chips, some things that a lot of

everyday people just don't have access to.

And so, Meta is now, you know, has this new model that they say is something that you could download today on your own personal computer with

the capacity that you currently have and really start having access to this very advanced technology. It's an interesting move for Meta because a year

ago, even before, Meta was seen as really one of the leaders on open-weight models. They had their Llama model.

They kind of left that behind as they tried to catch up to OpenAI and Anthropic, and now they're trying to stake their claim because the Chinese

are really the ones that are seen as advancing the furthest when it comes to open-weight models. And there's been a lot of call for the Americans to

start doing the same because the fear is that those open weight Chinese models are going to gain more and more popularity -- Isa.

SOARES: Hadas, thank you very much for laying it all out for us.

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Thank you. Good to see you, Hadas.

And still to come on the show, the latest in the trial of Lindsay Clancy, the mother accused of murdering her own three children. Why do the defense

is going after her psychiatrist? That's next.

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SOARES: Welcome back.

A tense cross-examination on the witness stand today in Massachusetts. The psychiatrist who treated Lindsay Clancy, a mother accused of murdering her

three children in 2023, answered a barrage of questions from Clancy's attorney. Clancy's defense argues she was not criminally responsible

because she was in the middle of a psychotic episode stemming for postpartum mental illness. testimony began two weeks ago.

CNN's Jean Casarez joins me now live from New York. She is across the story.

So, Jean, from what I understand, on Friday, they caught her testimony, right, from psychiatrists who treated her. Today is a defense turn. Just

give us a sense of what we heard and what the defense will be questioning today.

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. The cross-examination has just concluded of Lindsay Clancy by the defense. And I want to say of her

prescriber, of her main psychiatrist. And it was aggressive because they believed that this psychiatrist did not do her job as she should have.

And the first thing that they crossed her on was basically saying, you had just finished your residency when you took on this extremely ill patient.

And she admitted that she had just started practicing with patients. And then they said in every single visit you had with her was telehealth. It

was virtual. You never saw her in the office. This is the first time you've ever seen her is in court right now.

And she admitted that, but she also said that she didn't think that was an issue. The defense said it was because if somebody has mental illness, you

want to -- you want to look at their demeanor in person of how they react.

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Now, Jennifer Tufts, who was the witness on the stand, was her primary psychiatrist. No question about that. But she had also seen so many

providers between September of 2022 and January of 2023. And they had all prescribed medications, different medications. But Lindsay Clancy was

really -- based on the testimony we're hearing -- in charge of who she went to, what medication she did take, what she chose not to take.

She even wrote at one point in the notes, Jennifer Tufts, that Lindsay Clancy said, you know, I feel I'm responsible for this because I'm going to

so many different providers and I'm not following the program. But Jennifer Tufts saw her one day before she killed her children. And she said that she

was flat, she was foggy, she did not believe that she would harm herself or anyone else. That's where it stayed. And 24 hours later, she killed her

children and tried to commit suicide.

SOARES: Jean, I know you'll stay across this for us. Thank you very much indeed, Jean Casares there in New York.

We're going to take a short break. We'll see you on the other side.

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SOARES: Turning now to the world of football. Three major confederations are calling for an open investigation into the now defunct plan to sell a

stake in FIFA events, including the World Cup. They are accusing FIFA and its president, Gianni Infantino, of deception.

CNN's World Sport's Patrick Snell has a story for you.

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PATRICK SNELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: It may be a new week, but it seems there's still so much scrutiny upon the embattled FIFA president, Gianni Infantino.

Last week in Rabat, football's world governing body acknowledged mistakes had been made and apologized for the manner in which a controversial

proposal to sell off a portion of its commercial and operational rights of the World Cup and other competitions to private investors was sprung upon

its members.

That in turn followed a threat from European football's governing body UEFA that it was prepared to boycott all FIFA tournaments, including the World

Cup over the matter. Now FIFA is being accused of deception in Monday's open letter signed by the presidents and general secretaries of UEFA, North

and Central American and Caribbean governing body CONCACAF and the Asian Football Confederation who have called out FIFA and its leadership for

threatening the integrity of the game regarding its handling of the now scrapped project.

The letter reading in part, "Leadership in football is not a possession. It is not about holding or demanding power to be held. It is a duty of service

to the football family that entrusts it." It went on to add, "When trust is broken through deception, when an individual places himself above the

collective that entrusted him with authority, that duty has been abandoned."

Infantino does have some support though. The Confederation of African Football has backed the president in recent days alongside the Argentine

and Mexican soccer associations.

And with that, it's right back to you.

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SOARES: Thank you very much, Patrick.

I'm Isa Soares. This is WHAT WE KNOW. Do stay right here. We'll have much more news after a very short break.

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